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Tsarnaev Conviction Puts Death Penalty Opponents in an Awkward Spot
Townhall.com ^ | April 10, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/10/2015 7:32:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: avenir

Who cooked them up? Why the Boston Globe and the leftist in and around Boston.

You know ... The same type of people who call for the murder of bakers who won’t sell a homo a wedding cake.


21 posted on 04/10/2015 9:48:36 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: alloysteel

It sure is not and he deserves what he gets


22 posted on 04/10/2015 10:08:45 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I understand that all jurors said they could vote for the death penalty when they were selected.

Maybe this is one of those cases where we have to wait and see

23 posted on 04/10/2015 10:12:21 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Junior Tsarnaev:

Welcome to Indiana!


24 posted on 04/10/2015 10:12:34 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Kaslin

25 posted on 04/10/2015 10:16:49 AM PDT by McGruff (Ask yourself, what would Rick Grimes do?)
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To: Kaslin
Tsarnaev is, literally, a traitorous, child-murdering cop killer.

The author forgets that he murdered his brother with a stolen SUV.

So fratricide is among his crimes.

Five deaths can be attributed to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

26 posted on 04/10/2015 10:28:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

We might actually give him bonus points for offing Rico Suave.


27 posted on 04/10/2015 10:30:41 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Kaslin
People claim, usually tautologically, that retribution is illegitimate because revenge is illegitimate.

Those people are mistaken. Revenge on the part of the individual citizen is something he or she cedes to the state in the interest of a government of laws. Where the state shirks its responsibility for retributive justice, the citizen's only recourse is to take it into his or her own hands or have no justice at all. This isn't something the state may elect to do or to ignore, it's something the state MUST do in order to maintain its end of the social contract, i.e. something the state must do to survive. Vigilantism is what happens when it declines to do so; enough of that and there is no state.

28 posted on 04/10/2015 10:30:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: nascarnation
Well perhaps we could. There is a certain economy to the bother’s dispatching of his mentor.

But society was denied justice when Dzhokhar killed his brother while escaping from the police.

The families of the slain were denied the opportunity to see justice done; of watching the mastermind of their loved ones murder be executed.

Now the only justice they get is to watch the willing accomplice be served justice.

29 posted on 04/10/2015 10:38:36 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Kaslin
I understand that all jurors said they could vote for the death penalty when they were selected.

One,or more,of them might have lied to get on the jury.Perhaps they had fantasies of a book deal.Or perhaps their *real* goal was to see that he *didn't* fry.I'm ashamed to admit that I know very little about this great big world of ours but I promise you that I *do* know Massachusetts.

If he gets the DP I'll eat my shorts.

30 posted on 04/10/2015 10:39:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Oh I am sure you do know MA


31 posted on 04/10/2015 10:44:42 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

these are leftists, they have no moral compass just acquisition of power goals.

They commies will let this slide and then work toward their goal. If anything they will express outrage over the “execution murder”.

They do not see how the victims and families are hostages as long as he is alive. There is no finality to the horror he created.


32 posted on 04/10/2015 11:10:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dfwgator

There are a few folks on this forum opposed to death penalty at any time for any reason.

I don’t see any of them on this thread ... Perhaps they could show up and apply their principles to this case.


33 posted on 04/10/2015 11:17:37 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: dfwgator; CapnJack; alloysteel; Paisan; from occupied ga; Albion Wilde

I respectfully disagree with the death penalty. fromoccupiedga gives the best (IMO) conservative argument for which is: “Mercy to criminals is malevolence to their victims”

I have 2 main reasons that I oppose the death penalty:
1. I believe in the sanctity of life. I oppose abortion, euthanasia, and the death penalty.
2. I have seen how corrupt our government has become and the thought of the government wielding life or death power over all of us chills me. The government has no problem taxing you into poverty, persecuting you via the IRS, FBI, or other agencies. The government sees no problem with forcing you to bake a cake for a gay wedding. The government has no problem setting up 0vomitcare death panels. What makes you think it will act with any restraint when it sees fit to start putting to death political opposition? Or maybe it will sentence to death someone whose kidney is needed by a Clinton or a Kennedy. Far-fetched? So was gay marriage a few years ago.

I’m not saying that some people don’t deserve the death penalty. In fact, I think some people (child molesters and terrorists) deserve to be tortured first. But I believe that death is for God to decide. Putting the power of life and death into the hands of an increasingly corrupt government is a mistake.

(I do believe in the right of all of us to use deadly force in order to protect ourselves or others. In this case, it’s a choice of one life vs. another and I am willing to shoot someone who is attacking me or a loved one.)


34 posted on 04/10/2015 11:49:25 AM PDT by generally
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To: Kaslin

If Mass didn’t have the guts to give the death sentence to the NAMBLA monsters who kidnapped and murdered little 10-year old Jeffrey Curley, I doubt the state will do so now with a terrorist.


35 posted on 04/10/2015 3:40:02 PM PDT by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

I hear Heap Big Squaw Senator Lieawatha Warren is against the Death Penalty in this case, and probably every case.

Color me surprised.


36 posted on 04/10/2015 3:47:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Advertising Space Available here.)
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To: Kaslin

Death penalty is too expensive. Lock him up with gay yard monsters and feed him pork. Give him plenty of opportunities to do the right thing.


37 posted on 04/10/2015 5:37:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe we could do an ISIS style execution?


38 posted on 04/10/2015 6:41:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: generally

Your “morality” is confused at best and you logic is flawed.

L


39 posted on 04/10/2015 9:00:01 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: All
You'll be glad to know (/snix) the mother of the bomber
brothers got Obama's WH memo
---and is blaming
the "terrorist USA" for hurting her "wonderful little boys."

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva April 2013. / Photo: Getty

The mother of convicted Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev furiously promised that the US “will pay” for convicting her “innocent” son and killing his older brother, after learning that 21-year-old Dzokhar was found guilty of all 30 counts in the Boston Marathon bombing trial. Zubeidat also sent a note in Russian to a family friend Wednesday, saying she believed Americans were the real “terrorists”, claiming her son is truly “the best of the best.” (excerpted from NY POST).

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CLARIFICATION: Dzokhar is the one who killed his brother---he aimed a stolen SUV at cops involved in a shootout w/ his brother. But Dzokhar ran over his brother instead, and dragged him to his death, attached to the SUV's undercarriage.

BTW, Mommy-dearest cannot enter the US---b/c there is a warrant out for her arrest on shoplifting charges.

40 posted on 04/11/2015 6:15:56 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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