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1 posted on 04/10/2015 5:34:35 AM PDT by xzins
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Churches that accept society’s dogma on marriage and sexuality may think of themselves as “affirming,” but the global church sees them as “apostate.” Meanwhile, it is the height of imperialistic narrowness for a rapidly shrinking subset of white churches in the West to lecture the rest of the world — including those places where Christianity is exploding in growth or where Christians are being martyred — on why they are wrong and how everyone else in Christian history has misread Scripture regarding the meaning of marriage.

2 posted on 04/10/2015 5:35:08 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The people of Sodom and Gomorrah speak to us from the grave, are we listening?


3 posted on 04/10/2015 5:51:32 AM PDT by exnavy (Freedom is not free.)
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I’m surprised that the homos aren’t demanding that the bible be re-written to remove all references to Sodom and Gomorrah and verses pertaining to homosexuality being an abomination. Next they will probably say Jesus was gay abd that was the reason he and Peter hung out so much together and why he never got married. Not meant to offend anyone; just stating how far the Left will probably go if they aren’t reigned in.


4 posted on 04/10/2015 5:53:22 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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They will allow us to keep the name “Christian” but the Human Rights Campaign will be issuing the legal version of the Bible.


6 posted on 04/10/2015 5:57:59 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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So long as the Catholic Church allows homosexuals within its ranks, it will continue to bend to the demands of homosexuals and suffer the consequences. Religious acceptances of homosexual relationships cannot be demanded but they will reach a detente because too many immoral people have shown up on the courts to legitimize homosexual “marriage” and that 1-2% of the population has been given a platform in the media to demand rights to their perversion while the public is caught in between—hard to say no when the church itself is filled with homosexuals. Heck, even when found abusing children, homosexual priests are protected, what’s a little homosexual marriage in comparison?


8 posted on 04/10/2015 6:02:06 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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9 posted on 04/10/2015 6:04:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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There will come a time when Christians will be forced to change. The gay militia have already forced their perverseness on society.
They will never stop. Enough will never be enough.

“Christians must change to except sodomy!”
-but what about islam?
“Islam is...oh look, a squirrel”


10 posted on 04/10/2015 6:09:23 AM PDT by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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If it does, the left then will find the next point of resistance, and like gay “marriage”, criminalize that.

There is no amount of appeasing the world or the prince thereof.

They will settle for nothing less than the elimination of Christian values and God’s laws.


11 posted on 04/10/2015 6:12:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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“For I am the LORD; I change not.”

- Malachi 3:6a


13 posted on 04/10/2015 6:16:09 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Politics is downstream from culture." -- Andrew Breitbart)
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To: xzins; Gamecock
...he explosive growth of Christians in South America, China and Africa has dwarfed the churches of North America and Europe. And the lesson we learn from a century ago will probably still be true: The churches that thrived were those that offered their world something more than the echo of the times.

Truly, that is happening. One testimony of that truth:

This book gives a good general history of Christianity in China, with plenty of detail and interviews with current followers of Christ in that nation.

Recommended.

I recently spoke with someone at Ligonier Ministries, a parachurch organization. Their publications are being prepared for distribution in China, along with John MacArthur's study Bible.

South America and Africa are indeed witnessing explosive church growth, too.

The Holy Spirit is still changing hearts.

America, too, needs a revival.

Pray for it.

16 posted on 04/10/2015 6:19:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If we reject the miracles, how can we possibly believe in the resurrection? What is easier to believe: a lame person cured or a three-day dead man raised to life?


19 posted on 04/10/2015 6:22:26 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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People, even Christians, make a large presumptuous mistake when they assume God to be a maker of arbitrary, restrictive rules by which we are to prove ourselves worthy of heaven. Not so.

The world we live in is not the world God created, it is the world into which creation has fallen. A loving God gave us instructions on how to navigate this fallen world.

In the case of sex, God realized that the wonderful gift he gave the innocent Adam and Eve was a powerful and dangerous force in the fallen world. Use it wisely, because abuse leads to despair, destruction and chaos. Keep it within the bounds of a sanctified, committed marriage and it is a wonderful thing. Toss it around casually and it will destroy somebody.

Parents tell their children NOT to play on the freeway - not because they want to take all the fun out of life, but because they want their children to live safe and happy lives. As does God.

Good parents don’t teach their children that guns are bad, unsafe and evil...Good parents teach their children that guns are a tool to be respected, used properly and handled carefully - but wonderful in their proper place.

This is what God teaches us about sex. Many children are throwing tantrums - stamping their feet and screaming, “I hate you! You never let me do anything fun.” And the freeways of life are strewn with their mangled bodies.

How utterly foolish are the churches and pastors that say, in effect, “It’s OK, if you enjoy playing on the freeway, go ahead. We want to be inclusive and let everyone enjoy their fun.”


24 posted on 04/10/2015 6:32:48 AM PDT by GilesB
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If Christianity is to survive and thrive in the next century, many of our ancient prohibitions (sex outside of marriage, homosexual practice, the significance of gender, etc.) must be set aside.

This perspective simply amazes me. First, I have a great deal of respect for our all-powerful, all-knowing God. I assume He got these things right the first time, on His own, without our help. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I have enough fear/respect/love/trust in God to gain the easy wisdom that says "make the right choice - follow God".

Second, even without that really big hint that the Bible should be trusted, I find it obvious that marriage exists to protect children, and that sex outside marriage endangers any resulting children (whether through abortion, neglect, or poverty).
find it obvious that infidelity destabilizes marriages, which puts children at risk if there are children in those marriages.
I find it obvious that homosexual acts pose a huge risk of spreading serious diseases because the body is not designed for those actions.
I find it obvious that "gender" is nonsense, that sex is determined by chromosomes, and details like whether a girl is more prissy or more of a tomboy (or whether a guy is manly or more of a metrosexual pajamaboy Obama close) do not mean that a person has to surgically mutilate a healthy body.

30 posted on 04/10/2015 6:38:45 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Christianity cannot change and remain Christianity. Our Founder does not change He is day to day the same.


32 posted on 04/10/2015 6:41:28 AM PDT by Mom MD
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The original sin in the Garden of Eden involved not only disobedience to God, but it was a response to Satan’s temptation to “be like God”. That is the fundamental nature of humans: it is our desire to be our own God, set our own rules, our own moral code, and do whatever our heart desires. That also is the crux of rejection of God . . . in favor of self. Is our current culture not obsessed with self over the well being of all others?

If the church changes its teaching on sexual issues to be consistent with current culture, that is in fact rejection of God to favor man’s “opinion of the week” on the issues. But in so doing, if God permits that to happen, isn’t he “giving us over to our sinful desires”? That troubles me greatly.

Can we not look around us and see the destruction of the traditional family? Can we not see the devastating impact it has had on our children? Can we not see the conflict between young men and women? Can we not see the despair of young men and women from the absence of meaningful, committed and loving relationships? Is it not abundantly clear that our culture’s attempt to “improve” on God’s counsel already has been shown to be an abysmal and complete failure? I trust God over man; we are proven failures without Him.


36 posted on 04/10/2015 6:56:30 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama has made me the slave of sluggards.)
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When Christ changes His mind on sexual perversion, Christians should change their minds. After all, Jesus is a happening sort of guy, always into the latest wave of pop culture, and all that nonsense about, “I am the Lord thy God, and I change not,” was just to tease the Jews. Who could imagine that the creator of the universe, the one person who exists in all time, from beginning to end, and outside of it, wouldn’t be influenced by the constantly changing whims and self-importance of mankind? I mean really, with all the vast wonders of mankind, worrying about what humans do with their genitals seems petty, even for God who knows the bigger picture. ...Just throw those Bibles away kids, let your minds expand on the possibilities of a bigger Jesus you can create. Write your own Bibles, reflecting your own moral wisdom. Let God be cool.


41 posted on 04/10/2015 7:15:52 AM PDT by pallis
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IT'S THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,NOT THE NINE SUGESSTIONS!


44 posted on 04/10/2015 7:25:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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Actually its not standards modern standards that Christianity is being expected to embrace but “standards” or rather the lack there of that existed prior to Christianity and the rise of other main religions that helped temper such behavior. Sexual hedonism isn’t new its been tried and has always failed as have the cultures and civilizations that embraced it. I believe its rise is actually a key indicator of a culture in decline. That radical egalitarianism is being coupled with this sexual nonsense makes it even more dangerous because it posits that we can rewrite the ideas of gender and normal sexual relationships to make “equal” what is inferior(gay sex) or just absolutely idiotic and innately harmful (transexualism). What we are witnessing is a death of reason with the rise of these ideas because they are at face value bankrupt and ridiculous.

If a child were to come to the belief that they were really the easter bunny as opposed to simply role playing one there would be no consideration (at least previously) by the child’s school to make sure they allow the child to hop down the halls and color easter eggs instead of doing school work nor would they establish a special species neutral bathroom and call him Peter Cottontail. This illustrates the ridiculousness of the whole thing. We have adults facilitating this nonsense and we have adults who really do seriously claim to be suffering from species dysmorphia which shows how this disordered way of looking at the world goes beyond sexual weirdness and represents a deconstruction of reason.


45 posted on 04/10/2015 7:31:20 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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"Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, a lovely deer, a graceful doe. Let her breasts fill you at all times with delight; be intoxicated always in her love."—Proverbs 5:18-19

Let's get real here, okay? The above is not likely to come true for those who push "youth" into their late 20's and 30's, have graduated college (the booby prize of our era when weighed in the balance) and gotten that killer job that they "needed" to make a family happen.

No, by that time they will have fornicated, masturbated and pornificated like any human denied the above lovely "intoxication" would readily do in this fallen world. Sexual nature really, really, REALLY abhors a vacuum! Want evidence? Look around.

Godly sexuality begins at home, where Papa and Mama got a thing going on (intoxication!). Children need to see THAT, not find porn under Papa's bed or wonder where Mama ran off to.

Sexual union is male-female; two of the same kind cannot UNITE. Discord at home sows the seeds of perversion. Once it arrives full blown there's a collective "Whodunnit???". As always, GOD is not shocked. He warned us about it way back there. Us fools just keep going, and suffer for it!

49 posted on 04/10/2015 7:47:06 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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Actually, the slide of Christian denominations into approval of unnatural sex began at the Anglican Lambeth Conference of 1930, which was the first time in history that any church group officially approved contraception. This was an explicit OK for sex to be cut off from its original, God-given design.

All the rest of the sexual vices and perversions followed as the natural and logical consequence.

51 posted on 04/10/2015 7:50:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just cut and paste whatever you want.)
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