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Russia's Stealth Fighter Is in Serious Trouble
War Is Boring ^ | April 6, 2015 | By Robert Beckhusen

Posted on 04/07/2015 4:10:18 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Just a short time ago, Russia planned to have 52 advanced T-50 stealth fighters by the end of the decade. At least, that was the plan.

Now the T-50 program appears to be in serious trouble, and Russia may cut back the fighters to a fraction of the planned strength.

The first sign something was very wrong appeared last month. On March 24. Yuri Borisov, Russia’s deputy defense minister for armaments, told theKommersant newspaper that the military is drastically cutting its number of T-50s. Instead of 52 stealth fighters, Russia will build merely 12 of them.

That’s hardly anything.

The Kremlin has produced five T-50 prototypes so far — and one was heavily damaged in a fire. Meanwhile, India is co-developing the plane with Russia, and New Delhi’s funding helps keep the project alive. But now Indian Air Force officials have also stopped talking to their counterparts in Moscow. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at medium.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Russia
KEYWORDS: airplane; india; russia; stealth; t50; warisboring; yuriborisov

1 posted on 04/07/2015 4:10:18 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Don’t destroy the molds.

Shades of F-22.


2 posted on 04/07/2015 4:18:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Maybe Obama will sell them the F-35 if he hasn’t given it to them already.


3 posted on 04/07/2015 4:22:09 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Almost sounds like the F-35 program...

Is the T-50 billions over budget?


4 posted on 04/07/2015 4:23:22 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

5 posted on 04/07/2015 4:26:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe


6 posted on 04/07/2015 4:31:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: MeganC
Maybe Obama will sell them the F-35 if he hasn’t given it to them already.

Maybe that's the problem.

7 posted on 04/07/2015 4:32:33 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Small wonder why India wants to license produce the Dassault Rafale....


8 posted on 04/07/2015 4:36:43 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I noticed that Tyndall is having an air show this weekend. Free and free parking. I live around 50 miles away but am not in good enough health to go.

I would love to see an F-22 flying. They are also having the Golden Knights and the Thunderbird’s among other things. Eglin is near by but I have no idea if they will have F-35s too.


9 posted on 04/07/2015 4:43:56 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: RayChuang88

How does that stack up against the US,UK, Swedish & Russian competition?


10 posted on 04/07/2015 4:56:27 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: yarddog

I saw 3 dayglo orange painted remote control F15 target drones flying in tight formation parallel to the Panama City ship channel from Tyndall high tailing it out into the Gulf of Mexico.

About 60 seconds later a pair of F22 pursuers were accellerating as they followed them southward. The F 15’s were doomed. What a sight to see.


11 posted on 04/07/2015 5:41:29 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: MSF BU
Well, the Rafale is similar to the Eurofighter Typhoon in capability. And there is a version that can operate from aircraft carriers, which means the Indian Navy can use them on the new class of carriers now coming into service.
12 posted on 04/07/2015 6:06:34 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

I take it the Swedes don’t have a competitive product?


13 posted on 04/07/2015 6:24:32 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

As H. Rap Brown used to say, “Burn, Baby, Burn”.

Okay, I’ll update it. “Crash, Baby, Crash”.

Happy?


14 posted on 04/07/2015 7:04:03 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: MeganC

‘Maybe Obama will sell them the F-35 if he hasn’t given it to them already.’

In fact LM took over a Russian project in 1995 to build F-35 around it. Google ‘Yak-141’ aka ‘Freestyle’. No need to spend rubles.


15 posted on 04/07/2015 8:06:14 PM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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To: MSF BU
IIRC, the Indians have purchased French aircraft in the past (Jaguar, Mirage 2000), so there is already an existing customer relationship. In addition, the Rafael presently comes in a carrier variant and the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen doesn't...yet. See Sea Gripen under Further Developments header at link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

To give some perspective on the stealth fighter issue, if T-50 production is really held to 12 aircraft, and the surviving prototypes are rebuilt to production standards, the resulting number is about a squadron's worth of aircraft. Meantime, the United States has already completed manufacture of 195 F-22s and is scheduled to build between 2400 and 3100 F-35s for the United States and its allies. A little over 100 F-35s have already been produced.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Procurement_and_international_participation)

To end on a note of sarcasm, the article notes that Russia's defense financing problems are tied to declines in the price of oil. I'd say that it is also tied to what you do with the oil. Russia merely exports the oil as a raw material. By contrast, China turns some of the oil it imports in consumer goods which it sells back to the world. If Russia would just simply start making good quality, competitively priced consumer products, the world would beat a path to their door and production of the T-50 could resume. A dream to be sure...

If China fights the United States in the future, it will do so with weapons largely financed through the purvhase of consumer goods at Wal-Mart.

16 posted on 04/08/2015 3:11:51 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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To: Captain Rhino

Oddly enough, the Chinese are more inclined to protect property rights and thus can welcome those factories and investors. Then there are the cultural differences, specifically the work ethic of the Russian people versus that of the Chinese people. They are as different as Finns & Greeks.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 4:26:50 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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