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To: Nachum

No, you don’t need to pass a law giving you the right to approve the treaty. It isn’t a treaty until you approve it.

In the absence of senate approval, its a fake treaty. Its a dead letter.

This is actually a sleight of hand giving O exactly what he wants. If McConnell can’t get the law passed and signed, then does that mean the treaty stands? It will be interpreted that way by the obamists, and thats what McConnell is setting up. Pretending to fight for us while clearing the way for the obamists yet again.


3 posted on 04/06/2015 4:03:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Yeah that doesn’t make any sense at all. They want to pass a law asking to review the treaty? Not only they don’t have to do that, but Obama could veto it assuming it got through Congress. Or maybe not. Maybe Obama would sign it. Then what?

This is all just part of a larger problem of the abdication of congressional authority to the executive branch. And I do understand why we (they) would want and need a leader, but they have set up a giant apparatus in the federal government that really only answers to the executive. Sure they have oversight but nearly every agency answers to the cabinet and the executive picks the cabinent. And the agency executives outlast many different presidents. Where the real power lies.


5 posted on 04/06/2015 4:18:48 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: marron
If McConnell can’t get the law passed and signed, then does that mean the treaty stands?

It's been ventured that, if Obumer vetoes the bill, there are enough 'Rat votes to override the veto. If that's truly the case, it would serve as a massive rejection of Obummer's diplomacy.

I wonder, though, if there would be 13 'Rats willing to go that far.

6 posted on 04/06/2015 4:23:06 PM PDT by okie01
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To: marron

I think you got this right. Mcconnel is setting it up so that a failure of this vote will give OBama the PR win to claim that the treaty has been approved. A treaty is not a law until its approved by congress, its not an automatic law simply because Obama agreed to it


8 posted on 04/06/2015 4:28:35 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: marron
"This is actually a sleight of hand giving O exactly what he wants. If McConnell can’t get the law passed and signed, then does that mean the treaty stands? It will be interpreted that way by the obamists, and thats what McConnell is setting up. Pretending to fight for us while clearing the way for the obamists yet again."

That is really double negative type convoluted, but I suppose with someone like McConnell, he could be working to save Obama.

13 posted on 04/06/2015 6:40:13 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: marron

Dang, you need to go up there and explain to Mitch. I swear I think a lot of the congressmen/women are as dumb as a box of rocks. Constantly getting played.


15 posted on 04/06/2015 7:54:02 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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