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Jefferson and the Jihad
americanthinker.com ^ | 4/4/2015 | Sha'i ben-Tekoa

Posted on 04/04/2015 8:02:42 AM PDT by rktman

Thomas Jefferson, Patron Saint of American Liberals, would not recognize his spiritual offspring in today’s liberal President Obama and his handling of the Middle East.

Jefferson, as a trade commissioner and then ambassador in Paris for six years (1784-90), faced almost daily the tragedy of American hostages enslaved by violent Muslims and his own frustrating inability to liberate them.

However, what he learned served him well as the leading hawk for war a decade later when he became president and went to war against belligerent Islam.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: barbarycoast; barbarypirates; gwot; islamists; jefferson; maritime; presidents; shoresoftripoli; thomasjefferson
Geez. Jefferson knew. Churchill knew. The crusaders knew. The grand mullahs were in bed with the nazis during WWII. How come we keep giving them more and more? Guess we don't want to learn from the past. Some times it takes more than a "DOH!" when bad things happen.
1 posted on 04/04/2015 8:02:42 AM PDT by rktman
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Jefferson then wrote a letter to John Jay that read:

“The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”


2 posted on 04/04/2015 8:08:13 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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I can’t give an answer as to why America is so Neville Chamberlain-like, but things have gone far enough where there are no quick or painless solutions to be had.


3 posted on 04/04/2015 8:09:32 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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"In 1796, eighty-five surviving American hostages,
crippled and emaciated by the ordeal, were freed from slavery.
"

In 2015, the White Mosque gave Iran NUKES to destroy
America, Israel and Europe ... BUT LEFT IN PRISON IN IRAN
all Americans held captive and slave.


4 posted on 04/04/2015 8:10:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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I can’t give an answer as to why America is so Neville Chamberlain-like...

I think part of the answer comes from why Neville Chamberlain himself acted as he did: war fatigue. Chamberlain recoiled from the horrors of the Great War of 1914-1918, and did not want to see such a thing repeated.

America today has that same war fatigue. After Afghanistan and Iraq, few Americans want another open conflict. There is little support for one, necessary or not.

Of course, part of the answer also comes from the fools at the top who are negotiating for America. But that's another story.

5 posted on 04/04/2015 8:23:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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Thank you for your reply. Put that way it is more understandable, although no less dangerous. Mr. Chamberlain is, after all, human.

I myself am tired of wars that don’t end and forcing America’s best to follow rules of engagement that put them at a disadvantage.


6 posted on 04/04/2015 8:36:15 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Leaning Right; MichaelCorleone
There is a new strain of historiography seeking to explain Chamberlin's actions as a desperate attempt to "buy time" because he knew Britain couldn't fight Hitler in 1938. (I don't accept this, but it's out there).

To me, there are several problems with this approach:

1) Britain in 1938-39 was already outproducing German in fighter aircraft; and clearly had a massive lead that Germany could not overcome in surface naval ships. Britain would never be able to match Germany's land force size.

2) When Hitler went into the Rhineland, the neighboring nations of France, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, plus Britain, outnumbered Germany 140 divisions to five. Even when Hitler went into Czechoslovakia, the Allies vastly outnumbered the Germans . . . without Russia.

3) There was absolutely no military advantage to be gained by waiting.

7 posted on 04/04/2015 8:47:49 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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I doubt Jefferson would approve of letting in millions of moslem “immigrants” into the US and helping them build mosques and moslem schools on every block.


8 posted on 04/04/2015 9:09:15 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: LS
When Hitler went into the Rhineland, the neighboring nations of France, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, plus Britain, outnumbered Germany 140 divisions to five.

Yep, the opportunity to stop Hitler was there, but it was lost. And there was an organized group of German generals who were just waiting (and hoping) for France to move. Hitler would have been humiliated, and his own generals would have deposed him.

But France did not move. The Rhineland did not seem worth it.

9 posted on 04/04/2015 9:20:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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This was a fascinating article. I’m glad I followed the link to read the entire piece.


10 posted on 04/04/2015 9:57:06 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (The Govt's war on drugs was the setup for war on the American People)
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