Posted on 03/23/2015 2:14:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Was he an American citizen at birth? I.e., did he have to be naturalized to achieve citizenship, or was just naturally one?
If he was a citizen at birth, then I would consider him a natural born citizen. If he had to be naturalized to be a citizen, then he wasn’t a natural born citizen.
That’s how I would interpret that requirement.
The Donald can never a Natural Born Citizen because his hair was born by C-section.
You may have misunderstood. Cruz is clearly eligible to be POTUS. There is no but about it from me.
Trump’s a businessman first. He wants to be POTUS. Of course, he’ll engage in denigrating opponents.
Plus - Ted Cruz has only had one Social Security Number!
The US Code doesn't care what NBCs or anyone else needs. The US Code cares only for the US Code.
Is not about justice, and its not about the truth. Its about the Code. You know that saying - the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way? Well the Courts are like that - only it's the common law, the theory of justice, and the Code.
You can be born of ten generations of NBC on both sides of your family and never have left the State you were born in, and a judge will run his finger down the US Code to determine who and what you are. People have complained to judges that the government ruled them DEAD, and were told by the Court nothing could be done if the Code was followed.
That's just the world we live in.
Please note, “the single question” decided by the WONG court was whether or not WONG was a “citizen of the United States” "at the time of his birth" “by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution” NOT whether or not WONG was an Article II "natural-born citizen” of the United States, and thus eligible to the office of President.
A lot of fools.
What planet is your hair from, Donny?
I didn't mean Wong.
I meant the Slaughterhouse Cases.
You may have forgotten that the Framers of the Constitution made provision for persons who were not natural born citizens to become president. Its right there in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 after the word “or.”
“In the [constitutional] convention, it was objected that no number of years could properly prepare a foreigner for that place [the presidency]; but as men of other lands had spilled their blood in the cause of the United States, and had assisted at every stage of the formation of their institutions, on the seventh of September, it was unanimously settled that foreign-born residents of fourteen years who should be citizens at the time of the formation of the Constitution are eligible to the office of President.”— George Bancroft, “History of the United States of America, from the Discovery of the American Continent,” 1854
In George Bancroft’s “History of the Formation of the Constitution of the United States of America” published in 1882, reference is made to the fourth clause of the 1st section of Article II.
In the Constitutional Convention says Mr. Bancroft: “One question on the qualifications of the president was among the last decided. On the twenty-second of August, the Committee of Detail, fixing the requisite age of the president at thirty-five, on their own motion, and for the first time required only that the president should be a citizen of the United States, and should have been an inhabitant of them for twenty-one years. On the fourth of September, the Committee of States, who were charged with all unfinished business, limited the years of residence to fourteen. It was then objected that no number of years could properly prepare a foreigner for that place; but, as men of other lands had spilled their blood in the cause of the United States, and had assisted at every stage of the formation of their institutions, on the seventh of September, it was unanimously settled that foreign-born residents of fourteen years who shall be citizens at the time of the formation of the Constitution are eligible to the Office of the President.” (Corroboration for the statements of Bancroft are to be found in Vol. 5 of Johathan Elliott’s “Madison Papers,” page 462, 507, 512 and 521, and in Vol. 3 of Henry D. Gilpin’s “Madison Papers” pages 1398 , 1437 and 1516)
> I didn’t see anybody throw any serious doubt as to McCain’s eligibility.
I wasn’t aware of the issue until after the fact; but I believe that the McCain/Obama offering was put in place to ensure degradation of the NBC requirement.
(It’s not R vs D, it’s elite vs “unwashed masses”, it’s Real Americans vs. NWO/OpenBorders-types — That’s the reason the IRS-targeting, the NSA domestic-espionage, Fast & Furious, [etc] have had no real [and public] resolution: you as-a-citizen loyal to America are their enemy.)
And he never applied for financial aide as a foreign student while in college, either.
DUH, donald, if you are born American that is all that counts.
By federal law -- I think it was cited specifically on this thread, but I'm not entirely sure.
In any case this federal law (particularly sec 1401) has a subsection saying:
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: […]As this is a federal law, and congress's is only power regarding citizenship is that of naturalization anyone claiming citizenship via that law is claiming to be naturalized.
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
But the 14th did not, in Sec 1, give congress any new powers over citizenship.
John Bingham (Congressman, Judge, and a framer of the 14th Amendment), on Congressional record of the House on March 9, 1866 during the discussion concerning the 14th Amendment said the following concerning it:
“[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”
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