Posted on 03/18/2015 3:02:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
No, it isn’t expected that a church will do such things illegally.
There are no warning signs, which is moot anyway since the city building department found out what they had done and is forcing them to hire a plumbing contractor to remove the system.
This was back around 1990. Since she was in I Corps’ MI Battalion, she probably had a big tent. However she said she saw the sun more in Germany than in Seattle. I spent my time in FA and MI with artillery, tank and cavalry units in Germany. My luxury posting was to DC on the old Army Intelligence and Threat Analysis Agency. NO such thing as the field in DC.
My buddy in college had to resort to that. There were homeless that would camp out in the door ways and wait for someone to leave and then block the door to sleep in the hallways. The building tried calling the cops but it’s not a priority so they usually didn’t come. There were signs of course. They bolted planters to the ground which they just ripped out so they could lay their mats. Finally, we just started throwing pots filled with water on them after a generous warning. They finally got the message and stopped trying to camp out.
my great nephew says they still have shelter halves.
When I was at Ft. Lewis it was the 9th Infantry Division, I was Field Artillery at the time and the 9th was just starting to be reactivated (1972), after having been disbanded.
It was that reactivation which cheated me and 6 other artillery instructors from getting to the 82nd after we finished jump school, the 9th was training the soldiers straight from basic, an OJT AIT.
“Thats great Catholic christian charity at work there.”
It’s “charity” to let crazy and drug addicted people camp on your property?
The Catholic church (and I am a die hard Protestant) probably serves about 10,000 free meals a day in my fair city, as well as housing perhaps thousands and providing medical care and etc.
They are NOTHING if not charitable and are not required to let people do this.
“And here I thought that these are the very people that Jesus would want the church to help.”
There are thousands of shelter beds available in SF on any given night. These guys don’t want to keep the rules (no holding, no fighting, no sex, can’t be high)
I was OJT/AIT by the 2nd Bn, 34th Arty at Ft. Knox, as one of 50 basic training graduates that enlisted for the 194th Armored Brigade. We were the last group of ‘fillers’ to bring the 2-34 FA up to strength after it had been transferred from Ft. Lewis to Ft. Knox during late 72/early 73. I was trained as a 13E. A few years later, became in the first group of 13F, because I was a recon sgt in Germany, re-upped for MI and later got my commission in it.
Kinda like the Mormons...Baptizing people against their will...Now they’ll have the Catholic stain on their souls forever...
They may still use the term but surely they don't still use the old canvas shelter half, they are useless in rain, and with the two men and gear in them they drip from every spot that you touch or come in contact with, and of course you are laying in the mud.
I was a 13E that asked to be sent to the guns, although I really just wanted to go to the 82nd, it bored me to tears, even the guns wasn’t enough, my son was 13E with the 10th mountain.
I didn’t truly have the life of fun and adventure that I craved, until I joined a very high speed Guard unit in the 1980s.
This church probably spent a pretty penny on this plumbing system but they deliberately avoided the warning sign.
You guys would tell them that they couldn't be there, or that you were going to wet them down, that makes total sense, I would do that, just about any of us would(assuming it is legal).
The Israelis are just now ramping up the world’s largest seawater desalination plant to full capacity. It produces clean water from the sea cheaply and at a scale never before achieved.
Their newest plant (Sorek) is producing 627,000 cubic meters of water daily. By 2016, when additional plants will be running, some 50 percent of the country’s water is expected to come from desalination.
They're producing it for 58 U.S. cents per cubic meter (1,000 liters, or about what one person in Israel uses per week). It only cost $500 million, which came from private investment, and will be recouped in something like 5 years. California could have done that years ago. But no.
Instead, California authorized the issuance of US $9.95 billion in bonds for the High Speed Rail project which is never going to pay for itself. They could have built 18 major water-desalinization plants for that.
Geez, we should give California to Israel.
This discussion about water per se may seem tangential, but it's just emblematic of how the State of California is allowed to go to crap. Meanwhile, common sense (like, saying "For your own good, do not crap in the doorways, we have shelters, we have treatment programs, we even have toilets you can use on the other side of the building") is treated like it's so cruel, practically criminal.
Spraying them with water is awful, right? What are you supposed to do, frog-march them to vans and transport them forcibly to the shelters where they can have "three hots and a cot"--- as long as they don't shoot up drugs or assault one another?
Oh, no. That would be Nazism, I guess.
Good question. I’ll have to ask him. My guess is that they are now made of goretex. hopefully.
And I still have one in my old footlocker in the basement.
I read the story and it does look like some of these people may be drug addicted and/or mentally unstable people, but why is it okay to let in pedophiles, criminals, terrorists, and other unsavory characters into the country, but here they think it is okay to spray the homeless with water on cold winter nights. Is it because the Federal Government was giving them money for the illegals but not for the homeless problem.
The Church could have come up with a better solution for their homeless problem.
Homeless people?
In Obama’s America?
Who knew!!??!!
Do you always get this worked up over permit violations for minor plumbing projects?
You need to explain what you mean by worked up, you mean posting here like you are?
This plumbing project doesn’t sound so minor to me, but they have gotten a permit to remove it, and it was a church that decided to do it illegally, and then to do what they were doing in wetting down the homeless deliberately without warning them.
Why did they deliberately not post a sign describing that water would drench them, why was a church making these bad, yet purposeful decisions?
The last time I was in San Francisco was in 1993. The whole city smelled like urine.
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