Posted on 03/15/2015 8:34:16 PM PDT by Nachum
Sometimes stupid people can make good points. Paul is a poser just as bad as Jebby.
I hope he keeps making good points.
Who’s to sayy a loose canon can’t ocassionally hit the mark.
Not democrat-lite. Democrat all the way. I see no difference whatsoever
what’s a middle class value? How do you determine if someone represent middle-class value? If I make $1 more than middle class, does that mean I lose middle-class value?
Rand Paul is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY if we're going to keep RINO slime from getting yet another nomination. He puts things in absolute terms that can reduce Jeb or Christie or the next sellout to ridicule. He brings up a lot of the issues that concerned citizens that could vote with either party agree with.
Why would you want to end the influence of one of our most important weapons against Jeb?
YOU, in fact, illustrate why Rand can't be president. You're one of FR's notorious Soviet apologists. Why do traitors who hate their country and kiss up to foreign regimes like Rand Paul? Because they see his daddy in him. I do too, and such a person shouldn't be allowed in the driver's seat.
So... it would be business as usual with Jeb in the WH... A WEAK Republican who can't deal with issues because he caves in to the MSM and the Democrats.
Jeb is a loser even IF he wins.
Don't you think the first priority is to get Jeb out of the picture?
I think our first priority is to get RINO scum like Rand Paul and Jebby out of the picture.
I think the thing that frosts my grits about Jeb Bush (and there are many) the most is that he and his whole family are now joined at the hip with Bill Clinton and go around spouting that he’s either like a son to them or a brother to them.
Then there is the matter of Bush giving Hillary Clinton the Freedom award or whatever it was. The woman should be in prison. Nobody in the public sphere with any credibility has anything to do with her.
What decent person would align themselves with a known sleazoid and his sleaziod wife? They have no moral compass whatsoever? I just have no respect for these people anymore. You are known by your associations. Birds of a feather flock together and all that. I wouldn’t trust Jeb Bush just because of it.
Here we go again...
Sad.
Thanks for the note of agreement.
George H.W. Bush Is Witness At Same-Sex Wedding Of Friends
"She loves Hillary Clinton, knows fashion, supports gay rights. And those are just a few of the surprises George W.'s daughter has in store"
The Bush Family Is Pretty Supportive Of Marriage Equality — With Some Notable Exceptions
"During an appearance on the Larry King show, the former first lady said that same-sex couples “ought to have the same rights that everyone else has.”
I’m just waiting for the “You have to vote Huckabee/Bush/Paul/Perry/Christie, otherwise the Dems will win!” crowd to start up.
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That’s the game plan in certain circles I’m sure.
I’ll be perfectly happy to join you in not buying in.
If the RNC goes this route, it will be another four years of actions that will further the destruction of this nation.
Honestly, as much as I dislike what the Left is doing to this nation, it’s the surrender of the Right that makes me even more disgusted.
False prophets are rampant these days. The RNC has more than it’s share.
In the color spectrum, dark brown actually is lighter than black.
So when offered dark brown, we’re suppposed to go, “Oooo, ahhh, my what a lighter color...”
Of course we all know tan is the half-way point between all black, and too white.
This is another election where they can give me tan, or go down the road without my vote.
Any one with a pro blanket Amnesty agenda similar to what happened during Ronald Reagan will never get my support either.
From my vantage point, Jeb Bush is closest to that position. Rubio has modified his position. Walker has now had time to study this issue and will be interesting to watch what he will say about illegals. I have not heard in the past that he is for blanket Amnesty. What I recall he said is that he wants to address this issue. Note that illegals was not a burning issue in Wisconsin unlike AZ, CA, TX & FL. Walker was tangled in fights with gov’t unions and 3 elections in 4 years. Any off the cuff remark by him in the past should not be construed as policy directive.
Personally what I believe is that illegal immigrants issue must be addressed seriously and promptly. Any solution must include seriously curbing future illegals invasion. And those who are here and productive tax payers, must go at the end of line of those who are patiently waiting for legal immigration status from abroad. The others must be deported ASAP.
My opinion of middle class value is any one who has bothered to acquire productive skills, works for a living either in a job or business ownership, and has a moral compass. Monetary income levels are not important.
I find your position reasonable. I do take certain issue with your view that since this was removed from border states, this wasn’t a big issue for him.
For obvious reasons, I understand your view of that, locality related. And I want you to know this isn’t meant as a slam of you or Walker. It is something I think about these days.
Look, if you had a serious problem in your state, I would be concerned about it. If the implications for the nation were dire, I would certainly want to back you.
Let’s use Walker as an example. Unions were trying to force him to back down. I was as interested about that situation as I would have been if it were in my home town. I don’t agree with that sort of thing, and I can tell you my support was with Walker 100%.
That others didn’t really care about illegal immigration, really bothered me. I’ve been here 17 years, and what I warned about during that 17 years, has now impacted the whole nation negatively. I have taken a real beating here at times with folks who belittled me, ridiculed me, and tried to cast me as a racist or xenophobe.
NOW, folks think it’s an issue. Why wasn’t it an issue when the implications were crystal clear, and I and others were trying to warn where this would lead us?
Entropy12, I am merely running this by you. I in no way am trying to give you a hard time. At this point, it’s just academic for me. This has been a very important issue for me. Now people around the nation are finding out why. That’s just sad.
Even if Walker didn’t have higher aspirations, he should have seen this for what it was decades ago.
If he didn’t have a pathway policy, I can still back him. If he did..., it will be quite difficult.
If this nation’s borders aren’t considered important to a man like him, I can’t consider him an important player.
Let me mention something about Bush, that has a bit of a bearing here. There were times in Bush’s presidency when he would be confronted with an issue, and instead of coming up with the Conservative answer, he would prattle off something way off base.
He did this because he wasn’t a true conservative in his belly. If people came to you on unions, you’d know the answer off the top of your head. Conservatives generally have a rule of thumb to know what the right direction is on a variety of issues.
Bush didn’t have that, because it wasn’t in his soul.
If a guy does a turn-around on immigration now, is that because he has it in his soul, and has for a long time, or is it just expedient now?
I have no way of knowing that. It certainly doesn’t look good.
I have seen so many people good on one issue, then be totally lost on many others.
The Clinton years were like that. Many talking heads got their start during his “Whitewater” investigative years. They pretty much got it right. I thought these folks were solid people.
Then the Clinton’s moved on, these talking heads got their own shows, and low and behold they turned vitriolically Leftist.
Is Walker a great fantastic guy on that one issue, or is he that guy across the board. I don’t know yet.
The issue we discuss at this time, is one way of knowing IMO.
The Bush and Clinton families have been partners in crime since the good old days of Mena, Arkansas.
However, there's still something of a family rivalry, so a more likely scenario is Jeb picking his son, Jorge Prescott as his running mate, while Hillary picks Chelsea.
Unfortunately, Rand sold out by hopping aboard the "path to citizenship" (amnesty) bandwagon, which means that as far as I'm concerned, he isn't much better.
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