Posted on 03/11/2015 12:30:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Her core reason yesterday for deleting personal e-mails and refusing to turn over her server is that there are/were private communications on there, including between her and Bill, and no one has a right to see those. Now here’s Bill himself saying nope. Say what you will about Frank and Claire Underwood, at least he’d never leave her twisting in the wind in the middle of a scandal.
But wait. These are the Clintons. Every syllable must be parsed and re-parsed for hedging. Typically they don’t proceed to an outright lie until they’ve been cornered on their lawyerly non-answers. What exactly did Hillary say yesterday?
“The server contains personal communications from my husband and me,” she said. “The system we used was set up for President Clinton’s office,” she added. “So, I think that the use of that server, which started with my husband, certainly proved to be effective and secure.”…
But some took “from my husband and me” to mean messages between the former president and first lady…
Asked whether Bill Clinton e-mailed with his wife at her e-mail address, McKenna told Bloomberg he did not.
Perhaps Hillary Clinton meant messages on behalf of both of them.
Aha! So she didn’t explicitly say they e-mailed each other, only that messages were sent from the two of them. (E.g., “Best regards, Bill and Hillary”?) Or maybe Bill never e-mailed Hillary but Bill’s secretary did, after he told her what the message should say, which in ClintonWorld doesn’t really count as him e-mailing her just as sex acts that don’t involve coitus don’t really count as “sex.” Gotta be one or the other: I can’t imagine why Bill would hang Hillary out to dry by seeming to contradict her when she’s already getting nuked in the media for her ridiculous spin yesterday.
The e-mail contradiction isn’t the only case where Hillary might have chosen her words carefully. Sean Davis spots Clintonian evasiveness afoot in how she responded when asked about e-mailing with Obama and the security of her server. Here’s what she said:
CLINTON: I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.
So I’m certainly well-aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.
You could take that at face value if it were most anyone else, but for Hillary, says Davis, we need to scrutinize verb tenses. There “is” no classified material on her server, great. But was there? Much depends here on what the meaning of the word “is” is. Nor does she say anything about “sensitive” information, one rung down from classified info on the secrecy ladder. And note, he continues, how she says — twice — that she never sent classified information but says nothing about having received any. That’s probably no accident: Per Morgen Richmond, State’s ops center beams out classified alerts to key personnel 24/7.
"Alerts are disseminated via *classified* e-mail, BlackBerry devices…" http://t.co/68yYBopRZK pic.twitter.com/zpooIlGrCf
— Morgen (@morgenr) March 11, 2015
Diplomatic experts, when interviewed by the NYT, essentially laughed at the idea that she wouldn’t have been receiving classified information via e-mail. “I would assume that more than 50 percent of what the secretary of state dealt with was classified,” said one former senior State official. At worst, she lied outright yesterday; at best, she told the truth in a way so evasive and misleading that you’d need a lawyer with Davis’s eye for detail to interpret her answers for you. Either way, given how pitiful the security of her server was/is, it’s a cinch that foreign spies were accessing State’s confidential communiques through Clinton’s set-up. This person is the prohibitive frontrunner for the Democratic nomination.
The only way we’re going to get answers is to put her server in the hands of independent analysts. Can the deleted e-mails be retrieved? Can the saved e-mails that weren’t turned over to State all be rightly categorized as personal and therefore not subject to disclosure? Trey Gowdy told MSNBC this morning that his committee has no power to subpoena personal property like the server; the whole House might have that power — a court would need to decide — but Boehner’s not going to go down that rabbit hole given how the last confrontation between House Republicans and a Clinton shook out. To access that server, either Hillary’s going to have to be charged with something or, in the name of good government, transparency, and turning over a new leaf, she’s going to have to voluntarily turn it over. Which is a long way of saying she’s going to have to be charged with something.
In this case I’m going to believe the word of the whore-monger over that of the whore.
They cant stand each other and barely speak when in the same room, which is a rare occasion in itself.
Once again, when lying before the American People on television, it’s best to get your lies in order before you speak. Even Hillary with her lying cue cards failed to fall in line with her husbands lies.
Ouch!!
While some very useful information has been exchanged concerning this debacle that clearly indicate that Hillary is lying through her teeth, some things ought to be cleared up.
The State Department and DoD both use the same two systems for unclassifed and Secret level communications. The unclassified system is called NIPRNet and is for day to day discussions, coordination, administrative activity etc. This system is contected to the internet and can be used to exchange email with anyone out there in internet land.
The second system, called SIPRNET is for communications up to the SECRET level. While this system looks like email and works the same way, it is not connected to the internet. It operates on a completely different network that is not visible to anyone not on this network. If you have a SIPR account, you also have a NIPR account, but the twain shall never meet. There is a third system for Top Secret, but we’ll ignore that one for this discussion.
If I receive an email on SIPR, I cannot forward it to my NIPR account, my gmail account, or to anyone else out there in email land. I can only send email to other SIPR accounts. If I get a Powerpoint Briefing, for example, and it contains some unclassified slides that I’d like to have, I can get them, but it requires an administrator to port the slides over to the NIPR side and send them to my NIPR account. It is an elaborate procedure and leaves a big paper and electronic trial.
I believe that Hillary was using her own email domain to communicate with the NIPR world. She may not have even used SIPR as she has people for whatever tasks she doesn’t want to do for herself. That means that she couldn’t send classified email or enclosures to her magic server and probably did not. What she almost certainly did, was to discuss classified information on her unclassified and non governmental system. The higher up you go, the more this is likely to occur. That’s one reason that DoD, at least, routinely encrypts NIPR email. I doubt Hillary was encrypting email, but it’s possible depending on who her guru was. She was certainly discussing highly sensitive stuff with her little band of political zealots, and while she doesn’t want us to see it, chances are that the Russkies, and the Chicoms already have.
One more point. While Blackberries can certianly handle multiple email accounts, most government agencies prohibit using your personal account on a government Blackberry or Smart Phone. That’s why she needed two phones. Additionally, she was no doubt doing all of this to ensure that her political enemies did not get there hands on her conversations. Barack Obama would have been near the top of the list.
Watch out! Why is the Toon throwing his bride under the bus? Because he doesn’t want his emails, supposedly containing her messages to/from him, to be brought into this. Imagine what could be found there!
Exactly…. That would a whole lotta secret Clinton Foundation stuff. One thing that is not on the Clinton’s side is time….. if I’ve ever learned anything about emails over the years, it’s how insidious they are when folks are trying to keep things quiet. Rest assured, there will always be a case where someone has accidentally sent or copied an email to someone he/she shouldn’t, or somebody has forwarded something on and it ended up going into all sorts of places where it was never intended. The idea of Bill only ever sending out two emails… that would sound like something that is likely to be soundly refuted in no time. Or Shrillary’s claim of having submitted all the government emails…. all it takes is one person to produce one that wasn’t supplied by her to make it clear she didn’t provide them all. A complicated web is being woven in this attempt to deceive and I can’t ever see it working or doing anything other than prove how conclusive their pattern of lying is. This house of cards doesn’t stand a chance…. the only thing that can save them is to have an Al Sharpton sort of fire in the server building, and that probably won’t do it either.
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