Posted on 03/10/2015 11:22:16 AM PDT by Biggirl
On Monday, 47 United States Senators sent an open letter to the Iranian regime warning that any deal cut by President Obama could be revoked by Congress.
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The bottom line is they aren't doing their job. They should be writing to the President. But they are too afraid or love the president too much, so they are doing something that isn't their job, like negotiating with foreign dictators.
The Senate's job is to settle this with the President. If they are too scared to do that they should resign.
Shouldn't the fact that the senators felt they had no other choice be some sort of clue to Biden that things are terrifically out of whack?
Could it be that the 47 Senate GOP members were trying to outdo the House GOP members who invited PM Bibi from Israel to speak last week?
Would Obama listen? He clearly stated he will do whatever he wants regardless of law.
The Democrats quit playing by “Marquis de Queensbury” rules long ago. Do you want the Republicans to walk into the bayonets? Suicide is not a winning strategy.
A true analogy would be if the Democrats advised an ally to oppose a sitting President.
How many instances are there of that?
Well, that's their job. If they are too wimpy or stupid, then they should quit and let someone do the job they are supposed to. Appealing to foreign despots is not there job and has 0% chance of helping. When did the U.S. becomes a vassal state of Iran. These Senators are supposed to work for their constituents, not ayatollahs.
I believe they simply warned Iran that any deal made without their consent is invalid and won’t be honored by future administrations.
Senators acting in their capacity as senators could not be said to have violated the Logan Act if they are simply advising a foreign government that any deal they work out with resident Obama will not be enforceable without Senate ratification.
US Senators acting under their authority as representatives of the United States are not subject to the Logan Act.
There has only been one prosecution under this act since 1799. That was of a farmer in Tennessee.
Senators acting in their capacity as senators could not be said to have violated the Logan Act if they are simply advising a foreign government that any deal they work out with resident Obama will not be enforceable without Senate ratification.
That isn't there job! So they get to shirk their job and say it's okay if the president does something he's supposed as long as they notify some maniacs?
They are just using this as an excuse to not do their jobs.
They don't work for ayatollahs, they are supposed to be working for the U.S. people.
This is not a violation of the Logan Act. The Logan Act forbids negotiating with a foreign government. The senators are informing a foreign government of the Constitution and laws of the USA. That is no different that sending them a letter informing them that senators currently are chosen by popular vote within their own states.
This is desperation attack tactics that have no basis in fact.
Informing a foreign dictator that certain terms will not be honored is not negotiating? Nice try. You sound like a lefty.
All the left wing excuses that everyone is coming up with aren't flying. The bottom line is that this was a maneuver to let President Obama get away something he shouldn't. This was a total CYA action so they can (implausibly) claim they were doing there job, and they can't stand up to the President. This did absolutely nothing to enhance U.S. security, and it gave the President the green light to do whatever he wants.
If these Senators want to represent the ayatollahs instead of the U.S. people, they should move to Tehran.
Logan Act does not apply to legislators, as per the State Department.
As has been pointed out, there are many cases of legislators meeting with foreign officials against the wishes of the executive branch.
I’m not sure it’s ever even been used against private citizens. I think it is mostly just to deter people.
Where should your italics end? After the first line?
In any case, there is no discussion about what they were doing. They informed the Iranians how our system works. That’s a fact. Check it out. Facts are not left or right. They are just facts.
Likewise with the Logan Act. It either forbids negotiating with foreign governments or it forbids communicating with them or informing them. The fact is that it forbids negotiating with them and none of the other.
Facts are facts.
And every time they do, Freepers talk about how it's a violation of the Logan Act.
And, it only forbids negotiations with a foreign government. I could go to Germany and have dinner with Merkl right now. It would not violate the Logan Act. (It would surprise the hell out of her....:>)
Well, the State Department and the DOJ get to decide, don’t they?
Show me where in the Constitution it says Senators are supposed to inform foreign leaders how our system works? Especially as an excuse to actually not make our system work how it works?
Senators "educating" foreign leaders about our system as an excuse to allow the President to violate how our systems work is pathetic. The question is why are you defending this far left tactic?
Following laws and the Constitution is like so 20th century.
You mean like Pelosi?
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