[Berlin_Freeper]

12K Russian soldiers in Ukraine, U.S. commander says

[Jack Hammer]

Should work just about as well as the EU.

[CMB_polarization]

Wargaming Russia's Military Options in Ukraine

[grania]

A European Army would amount to Germany tightening its grip over the rest of Europe.

[Islander7]

Circular Firing Squad.

[BobL]

The Europeans cannot even control their Muslim invaders, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT they can field an army with any more capability than a Boy Scout troupe.

[Berlin_Freeper]

I wish I had a dollar for every post I read saying let Europe defend itself.

[Colehill1999]

europe needs an army like obama needs another butthole. he already has his, moochelles and any other tranny that walks into the white house. aint that enough??

[JoeFromSidney]

Rather than look at it from the standpoint of national politics, I'd rather look at it from the standpoint of the individual grunt. In my 25 years in the military, I knew for whom I'd be fighting: the country I was born in; the country my family lived in; the country my children would grow up in. For whom or what would the individual grunt in a "European" army be fighting for? A country with a people, or an abstraction like "Europe?"

I offer the Iraqi army as an example. Iraq is a geographical expression. It is not a nation with a people. When push came to shove, the Iraqi army fell apart. By contrast, the Kurds are a people, and the individual Kurd is willing to fight for his people.

As long as I'm pontificating, let me note that America is well on its way to being a geographical expression, not a people. When that process is sufficiently advanced, the "nation" will fall apart.