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Why do Chinese mothers look to So. Cal. – specifically Irvine – for birth tourism?
Orange County Register (CA) ^ | March 9, 2015 | BY ROXANA KOPETMAN

Posted on 03/09/2015 2:48:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

FULL TITLE: Why do Chinese mothers look to Southern California – specifically Irvine – for birth tourism? It's more than just baby's U.S. citizenship.

Southern California has cinematic, year-round sunshine – which beats New York, where snow “is not suitable” for traveling pregnant women. A large Chinese community is here to welcome you. And Irvine, the affluent planned community in the heart of Orange County, is a safe urban environment.

If you’re wealthy and Chinese and want to have an American baby, that’s the pitch you’ll hear from the operators of You Win USA Vacation Resort, one of three companies targeted last week by federal and local authorities for what is known as “birth tourism.”

In what appears to be a growing trend, thousands of wealthy Chinese families are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to have an American-born baby.

Many rich Chinese are looking for an insurance policy for their kids against financial and lifestyle risks in the homeland.

“It’s about keeping their options open,” said Jeffrey Wasserstrom, a UC Irvine professor of Chinese history.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; border; china; illegalaliens
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1 posted on 03/09/2015 2:48:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any country that can afford an airline ticket can invade us these days....


2 posted on 03/09/2015 2:54:22 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_psp6oXEAMwtVH.jpg:large


3 posted on 03/09/2015 2:55:27 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Turn off the Anchor Baby magnet.

Illegal aliens don’t decide who our citizenry will be.

These people may have come through the front door but they weren’t telling the truth about their intent. Does that make them illegals? ICE says yes.

But it’s easier to just say, your kid is a citizen when you go through the process to be a real immigrant, not a non-immigrant visitor, and not before.


4 posted on 03/09/2015 2:56:57 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why do Chinese mothers look to Southern California

It is not because of the weather. It is for a systematic takeover of the U.S. Pacific Rim.

5 posted on 03/09/2015 3:01:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s not just China. Korea is doing the same thing for wealthy families.


6 posted on 03/09/2015 3:07:40 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

The “nut rage” lady (family owns Korean Airlines) was doing the same thing, coming to the U.S. to have her kids.


7 posted on 03/09/2015 3:08:47 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More importantly, does *ANYONE* think that “birth tourism” is what the framers of the 14th amendment had in mind? Anyone at all?


8 posted on 03/09/2015 3:12:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess the world will continue to pick at the USA’s carcass until there’s no more meat left to consume.


9 posted on 03/09/2015 3:13:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Regulator
Turn off the Anchor Baby magnet.

That would be the court's deliberate misinterpretation of the 14th amendment.

We either have to replace the entire judiciary, or we have to amend the Constitution. I don't see either one happening pre-collapse.

10 posted on 03/09/2015 3:14:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think anchor babies should be illegal. But,,, I’m not too worried about the Chinese ones. If they do come to live here, they will be well-educated, and reasonably wealthy. They won’t be a drain on our economy. They’ll be successful. They won’t be running leaf blowers, not paying taxes, living on govt. handouts, and sending moolah back to Mexico. Still, anchor babies should not be allowed.


11 posted on 03/09/2015 3:23:19 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Bueller?


12 posted on 03/09/2015 3:28:26 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Interestingly, the Korean ones are doing it partly so that they can claim that as U.S. citizens, their anchor babies are exempt from the Korean military draft. The Korean government right now is looking at amending Korean law to make it clear they will not recognize U.S. anchor baby citizenship.

Ironic that other countries recognize this is a fraud, but we in the U.S. are stuck.


13 posted on 03/09/2015 3:32:27 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Since this current president has shown how weak the dual citizenship laws are in this country, any country is exploiting that.

Also Orange County, at one time, was a very conservative section of SoCal, and did NOT have a very large invasive immigrant population.

Do i agree with the cessation of ‘birth tours’?
%$^^ Yeah, ‘cause all you have to do is look at one piyush ‘bobby’ Jindal, as an example.


14 posted on 03/09/2015 3:35:36 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: kaehurowing

That’s very interesting!


15 posted on 03/09/2015 3:37:07 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: GraceG; Oldeconomybuyer; Regulator; DiogenesLamp; skeeter; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
People here on a valid tourist visa are not illegal.

However, neither are their offspring born during the legal visit American citizens.

This is not law. This is a stupid and most pernicious custom that has sprung up among us. At the turn of the century, many people became citizens, automatically conferring citizenship on their offspring. Somehow this morphed into Anchor Babies. No such thing.

All it would take to stop it is one Executive Order. The children of aliens are aliens. The children of naturalized citizens are citizens. In fact, they are Natural Born Citizens.

Our courts have failed us in defining citizenship. Instead, a welter of agency regulation has grown up about the issue that is contradictory and has cheapened our citizenship.

16 posted on 03/09/2015 3:55:45 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama kept his promises. Has your Republican Congressman done the same?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Oh! Abdo-lutely! But I worry much less about Chinese “Anchor Babies” than I do about illegal mexican foals.


17 posted on 03/09/2015 4:01:12 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Nero Germanicus
However, neither are their offspring born during the legal visit American citizens.

Nor were they ever intended to be, but some people persist in insisting that mere birth on the soil is all that was every required. These people are deliberately fighting against the best interests of the United States.

Our courts have failed us in defining citizenship. Instead, a welter of agency regulation has grown up about the issue that is contradictory and has cheapened our citizenship.

George Will.

Ann Coulter.

18 posted on 03/09/2015 5:19:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

The federal government’s attorneys argued the following position in 1898 in the landmark U.S. v Wong Kim Ark appeal: “For the most persuasive reasons we have refused citizenship to Chinese subjects; and yet, as to their offspring, who are just as obnoxious, and to whom the same reasons for exclusion apply -with equal force, we are told that we must accept them as fellow-citizens, and that, too, because of the mere accident of birth. There certainly should be some honor and dignity in American citizenship that would be sacred from the foul and corrupting taint of a debasing alienage. Are Chinese children born in this country to share with the descendants of the patriots of the American Revolution the exalted qualification of being eligible to the Presidency of the nation, conferred by the Constitution in recognition of the importance and dignity of citizenship by birth?”
“To hold that Wong Kim Ark is a natural-born citizen within the ruling now quoted, is to ignore the fact that at his birth he became a subject of China by reason of the allegiance of his parents to the Chinese Emperor. That fact is not open to controversy, for the law of China demonstrates its existence. He was therefore born subject to a foreign power; and although born subject to the laws of the United States, in the sense of being entitled to and receiving protection while within the territorial limits of the nation—a right of all aliens—yet be was not born subject to the ‘political jurisdiction’ thereof, and for that reason is not a citizen. The judgment and order appealed from should be reversed, and the respondent remanded to the custody of the collector.”

About twenty-years ago I was having lunch in Anaheim, California and takng my wife and daughter to Disneyland. Our waitress had on a sweatshirt that said “UCI.” Not being from California, I inquired about the meaning of “UCI” and the waitress replied “University of California, Irvine, but everyone around here calls it “University of Chinese Immigrants.”

That was in 1996.


19 posted on 03/09/2015 9:01:44 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Regulator
Turn off the Anchor Baby magnet.

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To fight anchor babies, we need two constitutional amendments. Something like these:

1. A new born must have at least one parent who is an American citizen to become a citizen at birth.

2. Only American citizens or resident aliens can enroll in public and private elementary and high schools, and colleges.

20 posted on 03/09/2015 10:13:55 PM PDT by john mirse
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