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Ted Cruz questions Supreme Court ruling ordering free education for immigrant kids
Dallas Morning News ^ | March 9, 2015 10:47 am | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 03/09/2015 12:32:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

WASHINGTON – Sen. Ted Cruz said Monday that the Supreme Court probably made the wrong decision in 1982 when it ruled that public schools must provide free education to children who are in the country illegally.

“There’s a strong argument to say that it was [a mistake],” Cruz told a conservative radio host in Des Moines during a campaign visit to Iowa.

WHO host Jan Mickelson, an immigration hardliner, peppered Cruz with questions about Plyler v. Doe, a Texas case in which the justices ruled 5-4 that states must provide public education for students in the country illegally. Jim Plyler was the school superintendent in Tyler, and Doe referred to families living and working there when Texas cut funding for students living in the country illegally.

Mickelson argued that states should now defy the court and ignore the precedent, and prodded Cruz to embrace the idea.

The senator, a top student at Harvard Law School and former clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist, stepped carefully. But he agreed that the court got it wrong.

Plyler v. Doe as a legal matter is certainly binding Supreme Court precedent,” Cruz said. “You can have a theoretical argument about the role of the Supreme Court. But I do think there is value in the principle of stare decisis, which is a Latin term for things which are decided. There is value in legal precedent.”

That said, he added, the court probably had no constitutional basis for forcing states to educate children in the country illegally.

“There is a very strong argument that the 14th Amendment doesn’t require that,” Cruz said.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 03/09/2015 12:32:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


CRUZ or LOSE!


2 posted on 03/09/2015 12:33:50 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
This is an example of how Ted Cruz's intellect can identify the source of problems, which has to happen before they can be solved.

How long can the media keep up the myth of those bogus polls showing Ted Cruz as lagging in support?

3 posted on 03/09/2015 12:38:21 PM PDT by grania
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s difficult to say that the SCOTUS was wrong. Back in 1982 the situation was different. Culminating in Amnesty — which wasn’t so hot a topic back then. Most agreed it was appropriate.

What Obama is doing is reach out and into the Latin American countries and giving them a tacit invite, he includes handouts because it will draw the poor and destitute, so he’s seeding the Democratic party for the future.


4 posted on 03/09/2015 12:39:29 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (White privilege? No. White Liberal Privilege? Yes.)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s been blowing up budgets, causing massive tax increases on the communities that can least afford it, and tanking American test scores. That is not to mention giving incentive to a problem that even the most progressive members of society admit is out of control.


5 posted on 03/09/2015 12:46:34 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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“There is a very strong argument that the 14th Amendment doesn’t require that,” Cruz said.
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Eh ???

The 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to illegal aliens..

the 14th Amendment doesn’t require the government to do or give anything to illegal aliens...


6 posted on 03/09/2015 12:46:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: grania

I don’t think those polls are bogus, merely symptomatic of the monumental sliming this guy has withstood.


7 posted on 03/09/2015 12:48:46 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: grania

This is also a great example of Ted Cruz’s refusal to pander; he knows, understands, and adheres to the principals of our Constitutional form of government. He is not afraid to recognize and acknowledge the different branches of the government, their roles, and the limits of their power.

Plus he’s got a great first name!

Go Ted!


8 posted on 03/09/2015 12:49:00 PM PDT by MrTed ("...at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow...", when one 1st does it makes an eternal difference!)
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To: Usagi_yo

Unfortunately for those who would want to say Ted Cruz is wacky for criticizing the court, he won all of his cases he brought to the U S Supreme Court. Nine of them.


9 posted on 03/09/2015 12:50:11 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SoConPubbie

He’d be far more useful as a USSC Justice then in the senate or presidency.


10 posted on 03/09/2015 12:52:24 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: SoConPubbie
The article "estimated that it would cost states $761 million to provide K-12 education for the 37,000 Central American child migrants released to relatives in the United States during the first seven months of 2014"

The money saved if we didn't give it to illegal invaders could do alot for American citizens in seven months!

Use that money to target business owners that employ illegal invaders and also landlords that rent to illegal invaders. Use that money to pay down our national debt. Use that money to prosecute corrupt politicians. Use that money to fund better services for our disabled military veterans. Use that money to put the Chamber of Amnesty out ouf business!

11 posted on 03/09/2015 12:53:09 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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To: grania

States need to become far more aggressive about nullifying both federal court decisions and federal laws. States have no obligation to follow the unconstitutional dictates from Washington. None.


12 posted on 03/09/2015 12:53:59 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: MSF BU
He’d be far more useful as a USSC Justice then in the senate or presidency.

Couldn't be more wrong.

We don't need a CEO right now.

We need principled, conservative Leadership ON ALL ISSUES.

Ted Cruz bring a fidelity to conservative policy that no other potential POTUS candidate brings to the table, including Walker.

The rest of the potential candidates fall way back in the list where these important characteristics are concerned.


CRUZ or LOSE!


13 posted on 03/09/2015 12:54:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The 14th Amendment does, however, delegitimize any questioning of the government taking on debt in your name:
Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Thus, the political caste can, at will, sell you [and your progeny] into a de facto slavery as these debts are secured against your income, which is non-optional.

14 posted on 03/09/2015 12:57:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Outrageous abuse of power, one which the GOP of the day refused to attack. Bob


15 posted on 03/09/2015 12:59:39 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Just call me if you ever need repairs." Flying Sorcery by Al Stewart)
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Ted Cruz questions Supreme Court ruling ordering free education for immigrant kids illegal aliens
16 posted on 03/09/2015 1:00:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Usagi_yo

Who agreed it was appropriate? It was a 5-4 decision that was flat-out lawless.


17 posted on 03/09/2015 1:00:35 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Just call me if you ever need repairs." Flying Sorcery by Al Stewart)
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To: SoConPubbie; onyx; GraceG; MeganC; cripplecreek
Shazam!

You could write a whole essay about how this ties in with the School Lunch Program too.

You have got to get and keep people dependent on the Government.

It is how is grows and sustains itself.

"If you don't feed them, they won't come"

18 posted on 03/09/2015 1:05:08 PM PDT by KC_Lion (The Issue is Not The Issue, The Issue is The Revolution.)
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To: stanne

Oh Cruz is not wacky. He’s very smart. I agree with you.


19 posted on 03/09/2015 1:08:17 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (White privilege? No. White Liberal Privilege? Yes.)
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To: stanne

[ Unfortunately for those who would want to say Ted Cruz is wacky for criticizing the court, he won all of his cases he brought to the U S Supreme Court. Nine of them. ]

Indeed, Ted Cruz has not dissapointed me yet.


20 posted on 03/09/2015 1:08:59 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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