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Some Glimmers Of Hope From SCOTUS In ACA Case
CrooksAndLiars.com ^ | 03/04/2015

Posted on 03/04/2015 8:38:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

There are glimmers of hope contained in the reports of today's Supreme Court arguments in the case brought by the Competitive Enterprise Institute challenging federal subsidies to people who buy health insurance on the exchanges.

This case is all about whether the language in a statute is to be interpreted without regard to any other sections of the statute or whether context is important. Justice Elena Kagan framed a question around that very issue.

SCOTUSBlog:

But much of the early questioning was dominated by a real-life hypothetical from Justice Kagan, suggesting that petitioner’s reading does not accord with everyday usage.

She offered (something like) the following example: Imagine I tell law clerk A to write a memo, and law clerk B to edit law clerk A’s memo, and then I tell law clerk C to write such memo if law clerk A is too busy. And imagine that happens – law clerk A is too busy, so law clerk C writes it. Should law clerk B edit it? The answer seemed obvious: of course, and Justice Kagan all but told petitioner’s counsel (and her clerks) that they would be fired if they didn’t do their job under those circumstances. In response, petitioner’s counsel said that the context mattered, and it would depend on whether the Justice was indifferent between law clerk A and law clerk C writing the memo in the first instance. But that seemed to play into Justice Kagan’s hand, who made clear that this was her point – that in understanding this text, the context obviously mattered.

If Justice Kennedy or Roberts was looking for a way to uphold the law and rule against CEI, this answer could be the one they needed. I'm cautiously optimistic.

There was one other moment that also offers glimmers. Justice Kennedy went down a line of questioning that seemed to suggest he was applying the same logic that allowed for the Medicaid expansion to become optional to this case.

He pointed out that, under petitioners’ reading, the federal government would be all but forcing states to create their own exchanges. That’s true not just for the headline reason covered by this case – that their citizens would be denied benefits – but for a very perceptive reason that Justice Kennedy added: namely, state insurance systems will fail if the subsidy/mandate system created by the statute does not operate in that particular state. For Kennedy, that seemed to make this case an echo of the last healthcare decision, where the Court concluded that it was unconstitutional coercion for the federal government to condition all Medicaid benefits in the state on expanding Medicaid therein. Simply put, Kennedy expressed deep concern with the federalism consequences of a reading that would coerce the states into setting up their own exchanges to avoid destroying a workable system of insurance in the state. Justice Scalia attempted to respond on petitioners’ behalf that such concerns do not enter if the statute is unambiguous, but Justice Kennedy reiterated his concern with adopting a reading that would create such a “serious unconstitutional problem.

Transcripts will be released later today and I intend to read them word by word. This case has been giving me heartburn and insomnia for way too long, and I want to see for myself whether this court would seriously destroy millions of people's lives just two years after they finally get some relief.



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; lawsuit; scotus

1 posted on 03/04/2015 8:38:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Glimmers of hope for the Lefties. I should have made that clear.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 8:39:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t think you can count on anything from the SCOTUS until the verdict is read.

It’ll pretty much be
“we want this to ‘work’, and if the law is in the way, the law be damned”


3 posted on 03/04/2015 8:39:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I await the final verdict.


4 posted on 03/04/2015 8:39:28 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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RE: Some Glimmers Of Hope From SCOTUS In ACA Case

Haven’t we heard that before?

Justice Roberts sounded quite promising during the deliberations about the “penalty” for not buying health insurance until lo and behold, he magically re-imagined it to be a tax.

What’s to stop him from doing something similar again?


5 posted on 03/04/2015 8:40:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

State nullification is such an elegant solution. It’ll get messy, but at least everything will be out in the open.


6 posted on 03/04/2015 8:41:05 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I am hoping and praying (though certainly not counting on it) that the recent information from Gruber that there were so many lies and manipulations and distortions used to pass Obamacare will cause the SCOTUS to rethink its original ruling.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 8:42:41 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The way the liberal judges reason is that it doesn’t matter how clear laws are when they are passed, if Obama wants them to mean something else they will accommodate Obama.


8 posted on 03/04/2015 8:47:02 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: MrB
“we want this to ‘work’, and if the ,law wording is in the way, the law be damned”

You are correct with just a minor change. Even with a favorable ruling, the GOPe Congress has signaled a willingness to fix the law to allow for the subsidies.

9 posted on 03/04/2015 8:52:16 AM PST by buckalfa (First time listener, long time caller.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Kennedy’s position is as portrayed in the article, this is a glimmer of hope for the brain dead. The complaint is that the measure is unconstitutional. Kennedy seems to hold that the statute as written is clearly unconstitutional and wouldn’t work, so he has to assume the intent was something other than what ACA states. Gee Justice Kennedy, is there any precedent for Congress passing a law that was unconstitutional or unworkable? This is the worst sort of sophistry.


10 posted on 03/04/2015 9:04:14 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"that in understanding this text, the context obviously mattered."

Kagan's claimed need for context would be more appropriately served by her first constructing a well-defined statement.   Where there is an unambiguous, well-defined statement, such as contained in the ACA, no further obfuscatory harkening to an apparently-conflicting thoughts elsewhere in the ACA is called for.   Scalia rules!

HF

11 posted on 03/04/2015 9:05:37 AM PST by holden
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To: SeekAndFind
What’s to stop him from doing something similar again?

Nothing will stop him and that is exactly what he'll do once again. Anyone thinking this law is going anywhere is crazy. If anything happens, single payer will be the next step. It's coming. Just a matter of time.

12 posted on 03/04/2015 9:21:09 AM PST by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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The FReepathon Is Almost Over

Please Donate And End It

13 posted on 03/04/2015 9:26:05 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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