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Yes, I realize this has been discussed already – but the point made in this article is very telling.

If allowed to stand, the agency can then challenge all centerfire rifle ammunition, and then as Harmsen shows, even decades old pistol bullets that are now deemed obsolete.

We’re only at the start of Obama the Dear Liar’s last two years? In office.

What else can we expect to be dictated by his royal highness?

1 posted on 03/03/2015 9:12:33 AM PST by HammerT
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This is just the opening of the door to get rid of more ammo.


2 posted on 03/03/2015 9:14:31 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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Rather a stretch. BATFE is construing M855 as AP because it has a significant component which matches the AP ban law - it’s a legal argument over what constitutes a “core”. Without any component using the enumerated metals, this method of prohibition doesn’t apply.

The hysteria over this issue is getting absurd. Yes, the ban is bad and misguided and unlawful and unconstitutional - but the means for the ban does NOT translate into banning _all_ AR15 (or more) ammo.


3 posted on 03/03/2015 9:18:05 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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***Ammo Ban Can Be Abused To Ban Common Rifle, Pistol Ammo***

That’s the point! A nibble here, a bite there! Soon it will still be legal to use ammo, but it will be so regulated with theses little nibbles it will no longer be legal to buy.


4 posted on 03/03/2015 9:31:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Not sure what the muzzle velocity of this type of ammo might be when shot from a pistol, but is bound to be much less effective at penetrating body armor than when fired by a rifle. Has anyone actually tested this?


10 posted on 03/03/2015 9:43:45 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: HammerT
If allowed to stand, the agency can then challenge all centerfire rifle ammunition, and then as Harmsen shows, even decades old pistol bullets that are now deemed obsolete

Yes, like .45 Long Colt and 44/40 Winchester, both originally black powder cartridges dating back to the 1870s.

11 posted on 03/03/2015 9:46:29 AM PST by Inyo-Mono
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Tent. Camel’s nose. Freedom and liberty lose.


13 posted on 03/03/2015 9:48:18 AM PST by Gritty (Between Iran and ISIS, the enemy of my enemy is ... my enemy! - Benjamin Netanyahu)
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It seems that the crux of this is that the ATF doesn't want rifle ammo out there that can be used in hand guns. So why not just ban those types of handguns?

Because they want desperately to have this ruling affect AR-15 platforms as well.

15 posted on 03/03/2015 9:49:38 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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‘ATF’s Absurd AR-15 “Armor-Piercing” Ammo Ban Can Be Abused To Ban Common Rifle, Pistol Ammo’

Uh... isn’t that the whole point of the exercise?


20 posted on 03/03/2015 9:58:09 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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a nation of rogue agencies and dictatorial power

BATF&E
EPA
IRS
CPS
DHS
"Justice" department
Obama

Yep - you pretty well summed it up.

21 posted on 03/03/2015 9:58:16 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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Man, my 10,000 rounds of that stuff is beginning to look a bit small. ;o)

Need to get some more.


26 posted on 03/03/2015 10:31:23 AM PST by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: HammerT; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


29 posted on 03/03/2015 10:50:05 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( _\\//)
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, excepting such horrific articles as scary musket attachments, safety devices such as a pillow stuffed in a can and attached to the end of the musket, or musket balls that are shaped rather than round, or any such items as may be conceived thereof in the future. Also, all privately owned cannon is a no-go.

Hmm... that doesn't look quite right.
37 posted on 03/03/2015 2:17:52 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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