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Washington Post: House Republicans warn D.C. mayor not to legalize pot (NANNY STATE ALERT)
Washington Post ^ | February 25th 2015 | Aaron C. Davis

Posted on 02/25/2015 7:36:18 AM PST by MadIsh32

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To: DiogenesLamp
Your Burke quotation establishes that marijuana use "has no place in a civil society" only under the baseless assumption that all marijuana use (whether legal or illegal) is "intemperate."
61 posted on 02/25/2015 2:34:51 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: dead
"Drugs are not Liberty. Never were. They are just childish self centered indulgences at odds with the best interests of society.

You're right - still not the business of the Federal government.

Sorry, when any aspect of society - IN AN OVERWHELMING WAY (like the drug culture that the country is quickly diving into) - creates a populace that can't sustain the core aspects of the country (defense, productivity, re-population)...
...then it is actually very valid for a legitimate government to take action against that aspect.

That action can be done stupidly, or it can be done smartly. But it has to be done. Otherwise the country itself becomes kaput.

One normally doesn't see these actions take place in "modern" countries, because the fact that they are modern means that the countries' societies, at least until recently, have been doing well, or well enough. But, as the West becomes more and more dysfunctional, we can expect to see the need for cultural interventions to arise. (I'm not looking forward to them, and it's going to get ugly.)

62 posted on 02/26/2015 3:32:04 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: gdani
Once the marijuana industry wisens up & starts making political donations, there will be a lot of Republican lawmakers changing their tunes & trumpeting states rights, local control, etc.

Yep! It’s the only tune that politicians dance to (cue themesong from "Best Little Whorehouse In Texas").

63 posted on 02/26/2015 3:49:03 AM PST by COBOL2Java ("God save America" - we are at the dawn of a new dark age)
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To: Yossarian

So would you honor the Tenth Amendment and have states regulate intrastate marijuana, or would you have fedgov calling the shots?


64 posted on 02/26/2015 4:40:49 AM PST by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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To: Ken H

In this case, the federal government. It has to do with the core of the country, just like slavery and abortion.


65 posted on 02/26/2015 5:34:14 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian
IN AN OVERWHELMING WAY (like the drug culture that the country is quickly diving into) - creates a populace that can't sustain the core aspects of the country (defense, productivity, re-population)...

I have no idea what you're talking about. Our country is suddenly unable to function and people can no longer reproduce - because of an "OVERWHELMING" drug culture?

Are you on drugs? I'm just glad you're not in charge of anything.

66 posted on 02/26/2015 5:52:40 AM PST by dead (It's time to turn off the Peter, Paul and Mary and turn on the George M. Cohan.)
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To: dead
I have no idea what you're talking about. Our country is suddenly unable to function and people can no longer reproduce - because of an "OVERWHELMING" drug culture?

Are you on drugs? I'm just glad you're not in charge of anything.

Try putting down the bong and re-reading for comprehension, libertarian bitch.

67 posted on 02/26/2015 6:41:39 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian

LOL! You mad, bro?


68 posted on 02/26/2015 7:35:38 AM PST by dead (It's time to turn off the Peter, Paul and Mary and turn on the George M. Cohan.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Fine, then show me the clause in the Constitution that gives the Federal Government the authority to forbid me to eat a cheeseburger, smoke a joint or inject heroin into my veins. I’m pretty sure you can’t do so.

Now, if you want to create laws that prohibit PUBLIC consumption of drugs, much like the laws that prohibit public consumption of alcohol, I think you’re on more solid ground. Further, if you want to increase penalties for criminal actions that are proven to be related to drug use, I think you have a solid argument there as well.

Don’t get me wrong: drugs are not a good thing. Nobody should take drugs. However, it is not and should not be the government’s job to protect its citizens from their own stupidity. I oppose mandatory seat belt laws, but still wear my seat belt when I’m in the car. I oppose mandatory helmet laws for motorcycle riders. I oppose laws regarding prohibition of unhealthy foods, such as the NYC laws governing large sodas and trans-fatty foods. I also oppose drug laws for the same reason even though I personally do not and never will use drugs.


69 posted on 02/26/2015 10:53:35 AM PST by stremba
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To: MadIsh32; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; ...

Hypocritical Big Government Republicans Nanny State PING!


70 posted on 02/26/2015 11:35:42 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Je suis Charlie, you miserable Islamist throwbacks!)
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To: stremba
Fine, then show me the clause in the Constitution that gives the Federal Government the authority to forbid me to eat a cheeseburger, smoke a joint or inject heroin into my veins. I’m pretty sure you can’t do so.

Right after you show me the clause that bans Nuclear weapons. What? It doesn't exist? OMG! They didn't put a ban on Nuclear Weapons in the US Constitution, therefore the US Government has no power to regulate them!!!!!

Nope. The Government's ability to ban drugs derives from the same constitutional authority to ban/regulate Nuke weapons, Chemical Weapons, (which drugs are.) Biological weapons, Toxins, Explosives, and so forth.

It is part of the defense clause, and it is a pretty big umbrella of justification for dealing with anything that threatens the security of the nation.

71 posted on 02/26/2015 12:01:32 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Dear God, you really are a communist


72 posted on 02/26/2015 12:02:06 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
Dear God, you really are a communist

No my friend, not putting up with drug indulgence is not communism. As a matter of fact, Chinese Communism is THE RESULT of a nation putting up with drug indulgence.

Legalized Opium destroyed the country, and Mao came along and picked up the pieces. A Dictator always emerges in a collapsed nation.

73 posted on 02/26/2015 12:12:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Morpheus2009
Meth is pretty bad, not to mention dangerous to produce as well. Hardly anyone actually bothers killing other people over pot, it’s a wild weed and easy to grow, or it just grows. AFAIK, the people who use meth or coke are a very different crowd from those who use pot.

All the Meth heads and Crack heads I know/used to know started out with weed.

74 posted on 02/26/2015 12:13:59 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


75 posted on 02/26/2015 9:27:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: DiogenesLamp

Not just legal opium. The British government played a huge role in getting the population addicted to the stuff. It stands to reason that the drug war is essentially our own government looking over it’s own shoulder in trying to prevent us from sharing a similar fate. It wasn’t entirely in ignorance either. Initial British leaders refused to sell Opium because they knew how bad the effects were on people. The overall British authority ruled to do it anyway


76 posted on 02/27/2015 3:46:58 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Drugs are not Liberty. Never were. They are just childish self centered indulgences at odds with the best interests of society.”

Kind of like high calorie foods, beer, and fast cars.


77 posted on 03/01/2015 7:53:57 AM PST by rogator
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