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To: entropy12
Are you equivalencing elections in Nazi Germany & Communist Cuba with US elections?

No, I was merely demonstrating the untruth of your statement "dictators are NEVER elected".

Having made this rash and unthinking statement you are backpedalling and trying to put more conditions on it than you started with. You didn't have these conditions up front, and you might admit that there is a generous amount of observer bias in deciding what is a "good" election vs. a "bad" election.

As an American I certainly want to believe that our elections are "good", although I need only look at the fraud in many elections and I can find lots of reasons why US elections might not be the gold standard we think they are. Go back 50 years and Kennedy's victory over Nixon in 1960 was almost certainly fraudulent with Chicago producing as many Dem votes as necessary for Kennedy to win. The Gore people tried hard to steal the 2000 election.

Go back to Nazi Germany, and as much as you might not want to agree, it is obvious that a majority of voters ended up supporting Hitler. This was a German election. As much as the rest of the world didn't like the result, it was a German decision to make.

Same with Castro in Cuba. At least at the beginning, more ordinary people wanted him than wanted his predecessor.

Lastly, you need to read a good civics book. The US is not a democracy, despite what the evening news says. We are a Republic, that pesky old Constitution says so, and it is true.

73 posted on 02/24/2015 12:09:10 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

Fraud was certainly a factor in 2012, 2008. And it will be again in 2016.

I blame the GOP for having done nothing when they had troika power in 2003-2005.

An excellent example of elections is India.
It is the world’s largest democracy, with 4 times as many voters as United States. Their recent election ousted the entrenched congress party, which was in power for about 63 years, total out of a total of 68 years since India became a democracy. How did they do it? By nominating a charismatic nominee who had a demonstrable record of successful capitalistic policies in his state where he was chief minister for 10 years. If you think there was no fraud or errors in India’s election, can we share some of the stuff you are smoking? But it was a LEGAL election.

And yes, I know the difference between a pure democracy and a republic. Almost all democratic countries on earth today are some form of democracy. In a pure democracy, the mob rules. In a republic the elected representatives rule. When I said democratic election, of course I was talking about the republics. Any political junkie will understand that.

So, again, there is a huge difference between elections in Saddam’s Iraq, Stalin’s USSR, Castro’s Cuba and elections in democracies such as India and USA. If you fail to see the difference you are throwing out subterfuge.

Getting to the final point, Obama was elected LEGALLY since you failed to prove in a court of law about election fraud. Which simply means he is legally not a dictator. If Obama is acting like a dictator, I can agree. So whose fault is that? The congress and the judiciary for letting him get away with usurpation of executive power.


76 posted on 02/24/2015 9:34:02 AM PST by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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