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Big Tobacco's future as Big Marijuana
Newsday ^ | February 21, 2015 | LEONID BERSHIDSKY

Posted on 02/21/2015 10:18:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: elcid1970
How ‘bout it, all you FReeper libertarians?

Pot smoke is bad for the lungs - I believe it's been established to increase the odds of bronchitis.

Should we ban everything with potential bad health effects?

21 posted on 02/21/2015 12:44:59 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ifinnegan
Withdrawing from opiates or stimulants can cause death.

Or from alcohol.

22 posted on 02/21/2015 12:46:28 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Winston tastes good like a...oh, crap, I forgot the rest, maaan.”


23 posted on 02/21/2015 1:06:49 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Alcohol and caffeine. In moderation, those are my self-inflicted poisons. I don’t need or want any more!


24 posted on 02/21/2015 1:24:50 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Some things are unhealthy if indulged to excess, and some are always bad for you. Society weighs the effects & makes decisions. Heroin was invented to break morphine addiction & cocaine was unregulated at one time.

Pot causes bronchitis? I got that s*** three times while deployed and I thought my lungs were going to drown. And I haven’t smoked since my youth.

Lungs weren’t designed to process smoke.


25 posted on 02/21/2015 1:29:22 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: BradyLS
Alcohol and caffeine. In moderation, those are my self-inflicted poisons. I don’t need or want any more!

Should other adults have the freedom to choose different self-inflicted poisons?

26 posted on 02/21/2015 1:29:31 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: elcid1970
Some things are unhealthy if indulged to excess, and some are always bad for you. Society weighs the effects & makes decisions.

Why does "society" rather than each individual adult get to make the decision?

27 posted on 02/21/2015 1:31:40 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Should other adults have the freedom to choose different self-inflicted poisons?

It isn't "Freedom" to screw your brains up by indulging in recreational drug usage.

Freedom is about the right to live and worship as you please, to find love and raise children without the government or anyone else, stealing from you or forcing you to work for them. To be able to speak your mind in public, or write what you wish.

It isn't about dope or cheap sex. It never was.

28 posted on 02/21/2015 3:16:51 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom
Or from alcohol.

Waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! They get Alcohol!!! I want my Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddd!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 02/21/2015 3:20:17 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom
Why does "society" rather than each individual adult get to make the decision?

Because individuals who get stuck on drugs are non compos mentis.

30 posted on 02/21/2015 3:25:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
Withdrawing from opiates or stimulants can cause death.

Or from alcohol.

Waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! They get Alcohol!!! I want my Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddd!!!!!!!!

Yes, I want equality in withdrawal death. Your bot posts get ever stupider.

31 posted on 02/21/2015 3:26:05 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You constantly try to compare alcohol to drugs, and as it has been pointed out to you continuously, you still don’t get the fact that we don’t have to be fair to drugs just because we put up with the damage caused by alcohol.


32 posted on 02/21/2015 3:27:48 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
Freedom is about the right to live and worship as you please

Except those who would be pleased to have pot in their lives. Hypocrite.

33 posted on 02/21/2015 3:28:21 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
You constantly try to compare alcohol to drugs

It's a simple fact that withdrawal from alcohol can cause death. Alcohol IS a drug.

34 posted on 02/21/2015 3:29:58 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Why does "society" rather than each individual adult get to make the decision?

Because individuals who get stuck on drugs are non compos mentis.

What about users who don't get stuck?

35 posted on 02/21/2015 3:31:06 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Trouble with pot is that it doesn't stay in one place, but has a tendency to drift to other families.

Spreads like a disease, it does.

36 posted on 02/21/2015 3:51:12 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom
It's a simple fact that withdrawal from alcohol can cause death. Alcohol IS a drug.

Yeah, I know. But as bad as it is, society made a conscious decision to keep it despite all the death and destruction it causes.

Yours didn't get the free pass.

37 posted on 02/21/2015 3:53:08 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom
What about users who don't get stuck?

You know how to make a law to distinguish between the two before the fact? I certainly don't.

38 posted on 02/21/2015 3:54:07 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Cvengr

The drug cartels can’t touch the tobacco companies or big pharma. They don’t have the money, they don’t have the government connections, and they don’t have the distribution network. Real legalization will see the cartels die because they can’t compete with the legal companies.


39 posted on 02/21/2015 3:55:00 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Why does "society" rather than each individual adult get to make the decision?

Because individuals who get stuck on drugs are non compos mentis.

What about users who don't get stuck?

You know how to make a law to distinguish between the two before the fact?

I know it's profoundly immoral to force ALL compos mentis adults to not do something that will in the future make SOME of them non compos mentis.

40 posted on 02/21/2015 4:06:11 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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