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Reliving the 1930s
Townhall.com ^ | 2/19/2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/19/2015 4:17:59 AM PST by Servant of the Cross

World War II was the most destructive war in history. What caused it?

The panic from the ongoing and worldwide Depression in the 1930s had empowered extremist movements the world over. Like-minded, violent dictators of otherwise quite different Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan and Communist Soviet Union all wanted to attack their neighbors.

Yet World War II could have been prevented had Western Europe united to deter Germany. Instead, France, Britain and the smaller European democracies appeased Hitler.

The United States turned isolationist. The Soviet Union collaborated with the Third Reich. And Italy and Japan eventually joined it.

The 1930s saw rampant anti-Semitism. Jews were blamed in fascist countries for the economic downturn. They were scapegoated in democracies for stirring up the fascists. The only safe havens for Jews from Europe were Jewish-settled Palestine and the United States.

Does all this sound depressingly familiar?

The aftershocks of the global financial meltdown of 2008 still paralyze the European Union while prompting all sorts of popular extremist movements and opportunistic terrorists.

After the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, America has turned inward. The Depression and the lingering unhappiness over World War I did the same to Americans in the 1930s.

Premodern monsters are on the move. The Islamic State is carving up Syria and Iraq to fashion a fascist caliphate.

Vladimir Putin gobbles up his neighbors in Ossetia, Crimea and eastern Ukraine, in crude imitation of the way Germany once swallowed Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1930s; obama; putin; vdh
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Hey 0bama ..... the 30's called. They thank you for making them relevant again.


1 posted on 02/19/2015 4:17:59 AM PST by Servant of the Cross
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To: Sir Napsalot; Kaslin; neverdem; EXCH54FE; 2ndDivisionVet; Rummyfan; smoothsailing; Hojczyk; ...

VDH ping ...


2 posted on 02/19/2015 4:19:10 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

WW III was the cold war. We are on the cusp of the WW IV.


3 posted on 02/19/2015 4:19:59 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’m currently reading William Manchester’s biography of Churchill. The 30‘s and today’s times are eerily similar.


4 posted on 02/19/2015 4:21:36 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Sans-Culotte

“The panic from the ongoing and worldwide Depression in the 1930s had empowered extremist movements the world over.”

The fact that European fascism was born of opposition to communism can’t be ignored; pointing to fascism as the starting point is akin to calling the Crusades a Christian attack against Islam. Without communism there would have been no European fascism, and nobody wants to point out that communism is a complete overturning of peoples’ way of life. If you have any doubts, look at what Obama and the Dems have done in six years.


5 posted on 02/19/2015 4:30:16 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Obama isn't like Neville Chamberlain...for all his faults and all the wrongheadedness he showed, Chamberlain thought he was doing what was best for England.

Obama is more like Oswald Mosley- someone who sympathized with the enemy.


6 posted on 02/19/2015 4:33:37 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’m with the author on this one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3170217/posts


7 posted on 02/19/2015 4:35:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Actually, Fascism is born out of a sense of innate superiority to others. Communism is more an economic stance.


8 posted on 02/19/2015 4:38:48 AM PST by odds
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To: Sans-Culotte

THE GATHERING STORM by Churchill is also an excellent study of how the refusal to see evil for what it was allowed Evil to wreak far more havoc on those who wanted “peace on our time” than any timely - fought war could have.
Churchill was a voice crying in the wilderness in 1936. In 1941, his message was finally understood...but only because it was written in in so much blood!


9 posted on 02/19/2015 4:39:29 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The Road to Serfdom.


10 posted on 02/19/2015 4:44:02 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I think its a stretch to compare Putin to Hitler. His objectives are likely limited to eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

Iran and China are potentially much bigger threats. ISIS is a very loud pissant.

Obama’s problem is that he is infatuated with radical Islam. It still floors me that, 7 years after 9/11, we were stupid enough to elect such an individual President.


11 posted on 02/19/2015 4:44:35 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

But, perhaps the biggest threat to the American republic is unfettered immigration from the Third World. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate that.


12 posted on 02/19/2015 4:46:08 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

But, perhaps the biggest threat to the American republic is unfettered immigration from the Third World. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate that.

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23 more months of unrelenting obamas*** to go.


13 posted on 02/19/2015 4:55:52 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.)
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To: odds

Textbook example of fascism: A minimum wage.


14 posted on 02/19/2015 4:58:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

Question, so what should be the “minimum wage” ?


15 posted on 02/19/2015 5:03:05 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: cuban leaf
Textbook example of fascism: A minimum wage.

More like killing Jews in Nazi Germany, because "how dare an inferior race steal jobs from (real) Germans!"

16 posted on 02/19/2015 5:08:19 AM PST by odds
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To: Biggirl

Question, so what should be the “minimum wage” ?


Zero.

What an employer pays its employees is between the two of them. When the government gets involved in that relationship it is fascism. If the employer is exploiting employees you eventually get something called “labor unions”.


17 posted on 02/19/2015 5:13:17 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: odds

More like killing Jews in Nazi Germany, because “how dare an inferior race steal jobs from (real) Germans!”


I’m talking about the economic side of fascism.

Socialism owns the business. Fascism just micromanages them.


18 posted on 02/19/2015 5:14:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
At least Churchill was a patriot, and not a secret Nazi traitor.

God help us.


19 posted on 02/19/2015 5:20:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cuban leaf

We need a minimum wage until immigration goes to zero. Otherwise the Chamber of Horrors would cause a new French Revolution in the USA.


20 posted on 02/19/2015 5:22:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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