Posted on 02/16/2015 10:19:07 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
The federal government is not giving up hope of preventing two Australian drug smugglers from being executed in Indonesia.
...'Let's not do this dreadful, final, irrevocable thing any time soon,' Mr Abbott says.
It's unclear what action the government will take if the executions go ahead, but one of them won't be using the $1 billion aid program for Indonesia as a bargaining tool.
(Excerpt) Read more at skynews.com.au ...
Among the eight are Andrew Chan, 31, and Myuran Sukumaran, 33, the ringleaders of a group of nine Australians who were arrested in 2005 for attempting to smuggle 8.3 kilograms of heroin to Australia from the Indonesian resort island of Bali.
Wasn’t it some three weeks ago that three Dutchmen were executed in Indonesia for operating a meth lab?
If my neighbor ran a meth lab I hope he would do it in Indonesia.
"Like millions of Australians, I feel sick in the pit of my stomach when I think about what is quite possibly happening to these youngsters," Abbott told reporters.attempted smuggling of 8.3 kilograms of heroin with a street value of $4 million into Australia
Yeah but, Ms. Bishop says Chan and Sukumaran are remorseful and have been rehabilitated.
>> Youngsters
Huh? Do they speak English down under?
>> Ms Bishop says Chan and Sukumaran are remorseful ...
It’s amazing how an upcoming execution focuses the mind. )-:
These 2 have no problem providing slow deaths for many, so I see nothing wrong with them receiving a fast death. Fire away Indonesia.
Its like that Frozen song “Let it go, let it go...”. I could care less unless they were falsely accused. They gave their lives so others could get high. Such a waste.
These guys are either guilty or they're not guilty.Having read about this case in the Sydney Morning Herald (and elsewhere) my sense is that they *are* guilty.I've done some traveling in Southeast Asia...Vietnam,Malaysia,Indonesia and Singapore to be specific.Every Westerner with an IQ greater than 70 knows that there are certain countries,mainly n SE Asian and the Middle East,that have the death penalty for drug trafficking.When one arrives in Singapore,for example,he sees a big,bold sign in the Immigration/Customs area specifically warning passengers that the DP apples for drug traffickers...and right next to that sign there's an amnesty bin into which (I assume) one is encouraged to drop his/her bricks of heroin.
I'm sorry,I can't find any sympathy for these guys regardless of how fully they might have reformed themselves (which,according to news coverage,is why they're asking for mercy..."we've reformed").
I often sole from the cookie jar when I was a kid.When I was caught I was overcome by remorse...when I wasn't caught,not the slightest pangs of guilt.
This is reminiscent of the Barlow/Chambers case (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlow_and_Chambers_execution). They got the death penalty for a much smaller stash of heroin.
I don't hate it at all.
The only problem I have with the idea of these two being executed is how long it has taken. They are guilty, and they don't deny it.
What this article doesn't mention is that they were part of a group of nine Australians caught at the same time (referred to in the press here as the 'Bali Nine'). The other seven of the nine has escaped the death sentence, and received various lesser sentences, largely because the Indonesian courts accepted that they had only done this once, and been caught the first time. They were given a degree of mercy because they were young and stupid at the time. But these two were different. They were seen as leaders of the group, and they had done it before.
The Australian government has long had a policy of always working to try and save Australians facing execution overseas. It regards it as part of its duty to its citizens to try and save their lives. That's what is happening here. It's a proforma stance by the government, because it's what the government always does.
Some 40 years ago a wise person told me "It's best to do drugs in your home country." That was before the US pissed off many countries with its faux drug righteousness and made them focus on American tourists as targets. It became even better advice with the passage of time.
They will be rehabilitated after facing the firing squad.
I guess it’s possible the Australian Government feels a little responsible because the Federal Police warned the Indonesians what they were up to. Had they been arrested in Australia on arrival with their smuggled drugs, they would not be facing the death penalty.
Executing drug smugglers sounds like a public service.
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