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To: exDemMom

I don’t think this Expert should be considered “stupid” DO YOU?

“There are unanswered questions about vaccine safety... No one should be threatened by the pursuit of this knowledge.” “I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation.” - Dr Bernadine Healy, MD (Former Director, National Institute of Health and Former President, American Red Cross)


8 posted on 02/15/2015 9:00:47 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

“”Dr Bernadine Healy, MD (Former Director, National Institute of Health and Former President, American Red Cross)””

I think you know by now after a week on threads like this that there are THEIR experts and the OTHERS - and the OTHERS don’t count. More power to you for keeping up the fight. It got too down and dirty for me last week.

This is another site of the NON EXPERTS that those who want to be disagreeable can disrupt.. I proved I can copy and paste with the best of last week’s posters:

49 DOSES OF 14 VACCINES BEFORE AGE 6?
69 DOSES OF 16 VACCINES BY AGE 18?

VACCINE INGREDIENTS: Different vaccines contain different ingredients including lab altered live or inactivated viruses and bacteria, chemicals, metals,
proteins, antibiotics and human, animal and insect DNA and RNA.

Learn more at NVIC.org.
National Vaccine Information Center |
21525 Ridgetop Circle, Suite 100 |
Sterling, Virginia 20166
Copyright 2013 - All Rights Reserved

Before you take the risk, find out what it is.
BIRTH (12 hours)
Hepatitis B
2 MONTHS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
HIB
Rotavirus
Hepatitis B
PCV
4 MONTHS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
HIB
Rotavirus
PCV
6 MONTHS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
Rotavirus
Hepatitis B
PCV
Influenza
7 MONTHS
Influenza
12 - 18 MONTHS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Measles
Mumps
Rubella
HIB
PCV
Varicella
Hepatitis A (2)
2 - 6 YEARS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
Measles
Mumps
Rubella
Varicella
Influenza (5)
7-18 YEARS
Diphtheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Influenza (12)
HPV (3)
Meningococcal (2)


29 posted on 02/15/2015 10:09:26 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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The Sabin Polio vaccine was contaminated with SV40 Simian Virus from Rhesus Monkeys. In 1994, a doctor discovered SV40 in tumors in humans. The measles vaccine was contaminated wit ALV (chicken cancer virus). The vaccine has been mandated to be made from ALV-free eggs. Science is NOT settled. I varied my kids schedule because of: reactions, and if they were sick. Parent/Guardian is more of an EXPERT than some Govt. Hack. Vaccines are NOT PERFECT. They have SIDE EFFECTS and some are not known for YEARS.

(below from Wiki)

In 1960, it was determined that the rhesus monkey kidney cells used to prepare the poliovirus vaccines were infected with the SV40 virus (Simian Virus-40). SV40 was also discovered in 1960 and is a naturally occurring virus that infects monkeys. In 1961, SV40 was found to cause tumors in rodents. More recently, the virus was found in certain forms of cancer in humans, for instance brain and bone tumors, pleural and peritoneal mesothelioma, and some types of non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. However, it has not been determined that SV40 causes these cancers.

SV40 was found to be present in stocks of the injected form of the polio vaccine (IPV) in use between 1955 to 1963.It is not found in the OPV form. Over 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine between 1955 to 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40; it has been estimated that 10–30 million Americans may have received a dose of vaccine contaminated with SV40.Later analysis suggested that vaccines produced by the former Soviet bloc countries until 1980, and used in the USSR, China, Japan, and several African countries, may have been contaminated; meaning hundreds of millions more may have been exposed to SV40.

http://www.virology.ws/2010/03/29/deep-sequencing-reveals-viral-vaccine-contaminants/

Use of the rotavirus vaccine Rotarix in the US has been temporarily suspended because the vaccine was found to be contaminated with porcine circovirus 1 DNA.

This is why believe that SCIENCE SHOULD NEVER BE SETTLED (and really never is). We are learning all the time. “Science is settled” stops research, safety, and ingenuity. Reported Side Effects can push scientists to make a product SAFER.


40 posted on 02/15/2015 10:48:33 AM PST by machogirl
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To: azkathy
“There are unanswered questions about vaccine safety... No one should be threatened by the pursuit of this knowledge.” “I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation.” - Dr Bernadine Healy, MD (Former Director, National Institute of Health and Former President, American Red Cross)

Oops, I missed this one. I read through her whole wikipedia article, and did not see any credentials qualifying her in vaccinology, immunology, microbiology, biochemistry, or in any other field that would qualify her to be considered a vaccine expert.

All I see is that you quoted one statement that she said, out of any context.

One thing you have to be careful of is that anti-vax sites often love to quote people who have no expertise in the science of vaccines. They'll point out that those people have PhDs or MDs, as if the degree itself and not the subject studied for the degree is important. They gloss over the fact that those "experts" actually have no experience in vaccine research. Some people go to school and get legitimate MD or PhD degrees and yet remain pseudoscience aficionados. If a person is presented as an expert, but they are saying things that are not documented within the medical literature, that should be a huge red flag. Anyone who is an expert can point to research that supports their statements, and anyone can verify that the research does, in fact, say what the expert says it does.

70 posted on 02/16/2015 8:53:46 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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