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Judge sides with government in lawsuit over surveillance
Associated Press ^ | Feb 10, 2015 9:29 PM EST

Posted on 02/10/2015 7:19:14 PM PST by Olog-hai

A federal judge on Tuesday sided with the government in a lawsuit alleging the National Security Agency is illegally engaging in the bulk collection of Internet and telephone records in the hunt for potential terrorists.

U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White in Oakland said the plaintiffs in the case—AT&T customers—had not shown that all AT&T customers’ Internet communications were currently the subject of a “dragnet seizure and search program, controlled by or at the direction of the Government,” and they therefore did not have standing to file a lawsuit under the Fourth Amendment, which protects against warrantless searches and seizures.

White said the plaintiffs’ understanding of the key parts of the data collection process was “substantially inaccurate.”

Additionally, even if the plaintiffs had standing, White said a Fourth Amendment claim would have to be dismissed to protect secret information that would damage national security if released. He granted partial summary judgment for the government. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 4a; fourthamendment; nsa; obama; yeswescan
These judges are betting on the wrong horse, never mind violating their oaths.
1 posted on 02/10/2015 7:19:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Government sides with Government against We the People.

That's happened before. Back in the 1770s.

2 posted on 02/10/2015 7:20:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Started with Marshall.


3 posted on 02/10/2015 7:23:46 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Hardens Hollow; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; ...

CWII Spark Ping — The Black Robed God-Kings Have Spoken!!


4 posted on 02/10/2015 7:26:13 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Olog-hai

They know who butters their bread, and they like bread.


5 posted on 02/10/2015 7:26:29 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: Fungi

They obviously don’t, what with the providers of butter undermining the means to make bread.


6 posted on 02/10/2015 7:31:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

And a finding in favor of the feds by a fed is to be taken seriously because......


7 posted on 02/10/2015 7:32:19 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Because of what the NSA will do afterwards?


8 posted on 02/10/2015 7:33:45 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Still Thinking

Because this is essentially saying that the fourth amendment doesn’t exist for the NSA.


9 posted on 02/10/2015 7:33:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Exactly. More shredding of the Constitution by the unaccountable who shouldn’t have such power to begin with.


10 posted on 02/10/2015 7:43:54 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: OneWingedShark; Olog-hai

Oh, I agree that it’s bad. I’m just trying to make the point that the paradigm of feds being the ultimate judges of the limits of federal power needs changing.


11 posted on 02/10/2015 7:48:47 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Olog-hai
"U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White in Oakland said the plaintiffs in the case - AT&T customers - had not shown that all AT&T customers' Internet communications were currently the subject of a "dragnet seizure and search program, controlled by or at the direction of the Government," and they therefore did not have standing to file a lawsuit under the Fourth Amendment, which protects against warrantless searches and seizures."

What kind of logic is this?

They didn't show that all were harmed, therefore they do not have standing to file a complaint?

Is that how this works? Was this a mistake in plaintiff argument?

Any attorneys out there?

12 posted on 02/10/2015 7:50:03 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Olog-hai

“...even if the plaintiffs had standing, White said a Fourth Amendment claim would have to be dismissed to protect secret information that would damage national security if released.”

Stunning...


13 posted on 02/10/2015 7:50:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Olog-hai

As long as u take care to violate the privacy of ALL, the consequences are the same as doing so of NONE.

=

If you rob EVERY bank, well that’s the same consequences as robbing NO banks.

.......???


14 posted on 02/10/2015 7:55:42 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Vendome

It ain’t easy being a black robed bitch these days.


15 posted on 02/10/2015 8:29:37 PM PST by glock rocks (Whenever I find myself in a conundrum, I ask myself: What would Elvis do?)
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To: glock rocks

Another Judge appointed by the Globalist GWB.


16 posted on 02/11/2015 12:47:40 PM PST by cowboyusa
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