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Horrific Florida Bill Would Imprison Trans People for Using Public Bathrooms
Slate ^ | February 6, 2015 | Mark Joseph Stern

Posted on 02/07/2015 1:57:58 PM PST by Roos_Girl

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To: Roos_Girl

Horrific bills for horrific monstrosities.


41 posted on 02/07/2015 3:46:12 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I didn’t know I needed to defend it. What do you propose?


42 posted on 02/07/2015 3:48:14 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

I propose you explain WHY you think “transgender” men should be allowed in women’s restrooms. You said it was wrong to keep them out.


43 posted on 02/07/2015 3:57:40 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Salman

A violation for which you’d get a ticket, like speeding?


44 posted on 02/07/2015 4:01:24 PM PST by Tax-chick (Soak your toes in hydrogen peroxide.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

That’s not what I said at all. I said it was wrong for the government to tell a private business what its restroom policy must be. It’s the same as forcing a Christian bakery to make a wedding cake for a homosexual couple or a Christian lodge to host homosexual weddings.


45 posted on 02/07/2015 4:07:42 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

“proposing one of the most viciously sadistic, hypocritical bills the legislature has ever considered.”

Yes, a vicious, sadistic, hypocritical piece of legislation. I can’t believe anyone would oppose self loathing, mentally ill men who are obsessed with self mutilation from using restrooms with girls and women. Mother nature has already determined which restroom they should be using.


46 posted on 02/07/2015 4:17:33 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: Tax-chick
A violation for which you’d get a ticket, like speeding?

A small fine or possibly minimal jail tome for not paying the fine.

I'm assuming it's just a question of using the toilet, no indecent exposure or advances of any kind. Even at that, there has to be a complaint. In general it's drunkenness related bad judgement, not a sexual thing at all.

47 posted on 02/07/2015 4:18:11 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

Thanks. That’s kind of what I figured. It seems as if they have all the law they need, in that case. Using the opposite-sex bathroom is disorderly conduct, if there’s a complaint. Indecent exposure, assault, or other actions are already against the law, too.

It’s interesting that the discussion is entirely about men dressed as women, not women dressed as men. We all seem to agree that men are a threat to women in the bathroom, but not the other way around. What does “dressed as a man” even mean, when I can (and sometimes do) wear my sons’ clothes to do yard work, without anyone’s noticing.


48 posted on 02/07/2015 4:25:25 PM PST by Tax-chick (Soak your toes in hydrogen peroxide.)
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To: Roos_Girl
The problem with allowing a “transgender into whatever bathroom they want to use” is that doing so routinely risks awkward and potentially dangerous situations, especially when minors and young children are involved. Oddly, under local ordinances secured in some Florida cities by transgender lobbying and agitation, a sketchy looking transgender can legally enter a ladies room but a father worried about the safety of his young daughter cannot. The bill would accommodate the emerging remedy, which is for single sex restrooms to be supplemented by smaller lockable "family restrooms" that anyone can use.
49 posted on 02/07/2015 4:26:11 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

And the cost on something like that?


50 posted on 02/07/2015 4:38:45 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

Just a year ago this would have been satire. Now it’s real.

Once a society travels down the road to depravity, there is no way to climb back up.


51 posted on 02/07/2015 4:40:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: GeronL
The business can be sued if they let men in the women’s room and the real women are upset

Florida requires a restroom where meals are served.

I expect we'll see "private" restrooms with a locked door. I don't know what Florida will do about Interstate tourist facilities at Florida's borders with the other states. For the trans-gendered, I'd install a couple of "Porta-Johns" outside the facility.

52 posted on 02/07/2015 4:40:39 PM PST by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: Roos_Girl

The answer is to eliminate toilets, people can relieve themselves in the alleys, fields and woods as befits a true Islamic nation.


53 posted on 02/07/2015 4:47:08 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Roos_Girl
All this nonsense would go away tomorrow if we just did away with "men's" and "women's" bathrooms altogether.

No matter what "gender" you are, we all share the same bodily functions and it's very inefficient to segregate us that way.

For those who are afraid of sexual assaults taking place, I think that fear is misplaced. More likely for a man to walk into a women's restroom to commit an assault - knowing there will be no other men in there to stop him.

Besides, women will have a "civilizing effect" on the way men currently behave in rest rooms. Men will be much less likely to pee on the floor and otherwise make slobs of themselves.

54 posted on 02/07/2015 4:50:59 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: GeronL

Great point! One more reason to Home school...as if we needed any more.


55 posted on 02/07/2015 4:53:53 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: faithhopecharity
Good argument, but what if they mutilate themselves?

To restate what you said, they should use the bathroom consistent with their Chromosomes. XX = Girls, XY = Boys
;-)
56 posted on 02/07/2015 4:57:29 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Amen! Maranatha!


57 posted on 02/07/2015 5:00:02 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: MaxMax

I find it amazing that for liberals, a woman’s right to privacy includes publicly funded abortion but not going to the bathroom in the security that a mentally ill man in a dress can sit half clothed nearby or take a shower unclothed in the same space.


58 posted on 02/07/2015 5:10:17 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I rather think maybe I don’t quite agree.

The first level of the bathroom problem is the appearance of the wrong anatomical parts

I think...you tell me...I think that the patrons should utilize the bathroom that matches their anatomical parts?

wouldn’t that be better than having some person look seriously out of place (but maybe protesting that he/she/it has the ‘correct chromosones inside”)?

nobody sees the chromosones...

just my thoughts. Damned if I know if they’re right or not


59 posted on 02/07/2015 5:33:27 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: Roos_Girl

Slate? What kind of stuff are you reading? How did you wander onto that site?

From my very brief glimpse of what was on that site, unless it is Sodom and Ghomorrah to the nth degree, it is bigoted, prejudicial and unacceptable to Slate.

You want real depravity. The two attorneys responsible for the dog attack in SF in 2001. IN a Press Democrat story Noel said people view bestiality the way they used to view homosexuality. Some of these people know no limit to their depravity.

http://herewomentalk.com/san-francisco%E2%80%99s-decline-into-darkness%E2%80%A6

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2003/jul/15/california-prison-guards-attorneys-convicted-in-dog-mauling/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/01/30/killer-dog-weird-couple/


60 posted on 02/07/2015 5:46:24 PM PST by rey
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