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To: Kaslin
"If you were simply the result of a freak, unguided evolutionary accident and your brain waves were just the result of neurons firing, you would have no more moral indignation than a zebra being eaten alive by lions or a fly being devoured by a spider."

The author is right on the mark.

Fry: "“bone cancer in children, what’s that about? How dare you create a world where there is such misery that’s not our fault? It’s utterly, utterly evil.”

In an atheist universe, "evil", compared to what? "Fault", compared to what?

Fry: "“Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid god who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?”

Again, capricious, mean-minded, stupid and injustice all assume some sort of transcendent standard of judgment that would not exist in an atheist universe.

Fry: “The god who created this universe, if he created this universe, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish. We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of god would do that?”

More of the same self-refuting nonsense because in an atheist worldview his moral notions and indignation are nothing but arbitrary brain waves. "Maniac" and "selfish" both assume non-material or abstract, universal and unchanging standards that are internally inconsistent with and and could not exist in a non-theistic universe. They would be meaningless noise.

Atheism provides no legitimate theoretical foundation for any intellectual or moral endeavor. This is not to say that atheists don't engage in such activities, but each and every time they do, as the author points out, they are proving that they are made in the image of God. They certainly don't have their own logically consistent atheistic foundation for the transcendent intellectual and moral standards they assume and spout off.

Cordially,

15 posted on 02/07/2015 7:49:04 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

The issue as I see it is not really what some vulgar TV ‘actor’ believes about anything or even what he says, he can say and believe as he likes, that’s between him and God as he’ll find out one day,

The greater concern (for me at least) is that we’ve reached a point in western culture where blaspheming God has no consequence among the general population, even for a person whose livelihood comes from appearing before a larger audience and entertaining them. Where this actor doesn’t see his words as harming his career and in fact is even helping it (I had never heard of him prior)

Where the public tacitly allows, condones or even outright applauds such words against the one true God of the Bible because they believe just like him, or maybe they just don’t care as they (the majority) have no relationship to even feel a tinge of offense at all,

The judgement Sodom and Gomorrah received was not about individual actions, it was the openly condoning and public acceptance as bearing witness that this people were all of the same perverted reprobate mindset, likely even in their Laws governing the land where those that were not a part were still forced to participate in some manner, that God could no longer allow it to continue as his people no longer had any place to stand. I think we’re close to seeing that time again here today,

As to his comments, this collective mindset is why England is being given over to the cult of the false prophet, they have no spiritual defense against it,

The ‘god’ of this world IS monstrous, and he (this b-movie personality) serves this god even though he doesn’t know it,

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, “ Romans 1:22

“And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, . . “ Romans 1:28-32


25 posted on 02/07/2015 9:09:55 AM PST by captmar-vell
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