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U.S. House finally adopts rule to count Article V Convention applications
examiner.com ^ | 2/3/15 | Byron DeLear

Posted on 02/04/2015 7:05:43 AM PST by cotton1706

It only took 226 years for Congress to begin to take seriously its duty under Article V of the U.S. Constitution. Two weeks ago a new rule for the U.S. House was put into effect providing for a means to count incoming state applications for an Article V Convention to propose constitutional amendments. An astounding fact being that Congress has never officially tallied these applications before. So, the inquisitive might wonder, why now?

More than a tweet is needed to answer this question as the Article V Convention topic can be difficult to comprehend and sometimes inscrutable when compared with the bumper-sticker mentality driving today's mainstream punditry. But what’s so important about this latest development is that logic can only conclude that if Congress has never officially counted state applications for an Article V Convention until now, this means that for 226 years a critical chunk of the constitution has been effectively embargoed from the American people. It would be as if we never had a State of the Union address because Congress refused to keep a calendar.

“No, the president doesn’t need to address Congress because we don’t know what day it is,” would be the explanation.

Now this might sound silly but it’s not an entirely off-base analogy. To wit, Congress must call a convention once 2/3rds of the states apply, and there have been over 700 applications from 49 states far exceeding the current 2/3rds threshold needed of 34 states. We know this is the number because an organization named Friends of the Article V Convention (FOAVC), of which I am a co-founder, did a forensic study of the congressional record to unearth these documents. You can see FOAVC's repository of Article V applications here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article5; articlev; conventionofstates
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1 posted on 02/04/2015 7:05:43 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
What difference will another Amendment make if the current ones aren't even being followed?

Oh. Right. Once an Amendment passes that nullifies all the other Amendments, Progressives will suddenly become all high and mighty that The Constitution be followed.

2 posted on 02/04/2015 7:10:10 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: cotton1706

May God grant the states the wisdom to repeal the 17th Amendment and get themselves back where they belong... the upper house of Congress.


3 posted on 02/04/2015 7:15:06 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: cotton1706
...a new rule for the U.S. House was put into effect providing for a means to count incoming state applications for an Article V Convention...

Is there something wrong with the normal method of counting. You know, 1, 2, 3, 4... etc.?

4 posted on 02/04/2015 7:19:39 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS
Is there something wrong with the normal method of counting. You know, 1, 2, 3, 4... etc.?

This is Congress we're talking about. They only know that phuzzy math. Common Core stuff...

5 posted on 02/04/2015 7:22:29 AM PST by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: cotton1706

Okay, I read the entire article, but nowhere does the author explain exactly what the rule establishes with regard to counting the petitions. Is there a limit on how long ago the petition was submitted for it to be counted? Do they count the petitions separately if they address different topics? This article says they have a rule to count them, but tells us nothing about which ones will be counted and which ones won’t, and how that is determined...


6 posted on 02/04/2015 7:26:41 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: WayneS

The operative term is ‘logging’ or ‘recording’ or ‘tracking’.


7 posted on 02/04/2015 7:29:28 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: pgyanke; Texas Eagle

It may be a challenge for you to even find out who your state legislators are but do what you need to do and send them the below amendment proposal which you can bet they will like very much because it’s right up their alley, it’s natural to them and has no political repercussions for them.

Here’s what they need to propose as an amendment to the Constitution:
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To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States and to restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.

Section 2.
Upon a majority vote in two-thirds of state legislatures, federal statutes and federal court decisions shall be overridden.

Section 3.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years.
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SEND THE ABOVE DRAFT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS, CALL THEM TO CONFIRM THEY RECEIVED IT, THEN GET THEIR FEEDBACK!

Now if Section 1 above is replaced with a repeal of the 17th Amendment, that may be even better but it may be a hard sale. Recalling US Senators gets the job done for state legislatures and it also requires interaction with the voters as they retain the right to vote for their US Senator.

With the above amendment, there would be no Obamacare, no same-sex marriage nonsense and so on. Most of the social issue tyranny would go away.


8 posted on 02/04/2015 7:31:25 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Texas Eagle

We will also need an amendment to tell the judges to stop reinterpreting the other clauses and amendments as they see fit. I’m sure they will be happy to comply, once that is spelled out for them.


9 posted on 02/04/2015 7:36:39 AM PST by Boogieman
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10 posted on 02/04/2015 7:39:27 AM PST by matthew fuller (God bless Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range.)
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To: cotton1706

Be careful what you wish for.

Can you imagine what utter rot would be written into the constitution if we were to have another constitutional convention?

Doesn’t everyone have a right to food? How about clean water? What good is food and water without an affordable place to live? Don’t the kids have a right to a good education? How about college? Who can live these days without a car?


11 posted on 02/04/2015 7:39:30 AM PST by conejo99
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To: cotton1706

Unfortunately, his “rule” limits the process unconstitutionally. However, I suppose it’s a start.


12 posted on 02/04/2015 7:41:21 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: cotton1706
We need an Article V convention of the States now to disband this tyrannical, unconstitutional over-sized government and to remove the dictator Obama and imprison him for his many crimes.

God bless the finally real Republican House for starting this process and all the conservative bills they have passed this year

13 posted on 02/04/2015 7:41:54 AM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: conejo99
"Can you imagine what utter rot would be written into the constitution if we were to have another constitutional convention?"

Can you imagine what utter rot will be interpreted into the constitution if we don't have a convention?

14 posted on 02/04/2015 7:43:15 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Boogieman
"We will also need an amendment to tell the judges to stop reinterpreting the other clauses and amendments as they see fit"

Mark Levin has proposed a solution to this. I suggest you study up.

15 posted on 02/04/2015 7:45:30 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: conejo99
Can you imagine what utter rot would be written into the constitution if we were to have another constitutional convention?

I cannot imagine any proposed amendment coming out of the convention that 38 states would vote for.

16 posted on 02/04/2015 7:45:32 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: conejo99

“Be careful what you wish for.”

A Constitutional convention won’t be happening. That’s a common miss conception. Read Article 5. This is for Amendments only. But, even that could backfire.


17 posted on 02/04/2015 7:46:02 AM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Sasparilla

“Miss Conception?” Now that is funny.


18 posted on 02/04/2015 7:47:24 AM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: conejo99

Do you really think that 3/4ths of the states would approve amendments calling for that? I have faith that the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when they put Article V in the constitution.


19 posted on 02/04/2015 7:47:33 AM PST by anoldafvet (We need a National Conservative Party for 2016.)
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To: cotton1706

Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. I do not have much faith in the political caste to stay on topic in a convention.


20 posted on 02/04/2015 7:50:33 AM PST by Ingtar (Is this the Ebola and rumors of Ebola mentioned in the Bible?)
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