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More states signing onto an Article V convention, and that’s a good thing
Absolute Rights ^ | 02/04/2015 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 02/04/2015 6:49:07 AM PST by SleeperCatcher

What should American conservatives to do when the leaders of their chosen party have become nearly indistinguishable from liberal Democrats? Vote? Write letters and emails? Make phone calls? Stay at home and refuse to participate? Withhold our financial support?

We have tried all of those things – repeatedly, over the course of the past 100 years – but nothing seems to have worked. If anything, today’s GOP establishment leaders are more distant from, and more hostile to, conservatives than at any time since the Republican Party was founded.

(Excerpt) Read more at absoluterights.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: articlev; convention; dsj02; states
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1 posted on 02/04/2015 6:49:07 AM PST by SleeperCatcher
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To: SleeperCatcher

No,it’s not a good thing. The attack on the 2A will be the primary focus of the libs.


2 posted on 02/04/2015 6:52:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: SleeperCatcher

NIBTJBS

(not in before the JBS posts)


3 posted on 02/04/2015 6:53:06 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SleeperCatcher
A lot of talkin' and politickin' hasn't accomplished a damned thing, but a real, REAL official confab designed for really real talkin' an' politickin' WILL ?

What're you ... NUTS ?

Some one should stand outside of Congress and hand out canes while they filr in for their days' ... um .... work.

4 posted on 02/04/2015 6:54:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true)
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To: C210N

The FEDERAL Senate and house can PROPOSE amendments, why do people freak out when we suggest that a MAJORITY of the STATE houses do the SAME EXACT THING?


5 posted on 02/04/2015 6:55:44 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: mad_as_he$$

OK what is your solution/suggestion. So far, we are doing nothing, and I feel so helpless.


6 posted on 02/04/2015 6:56:49 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: mad_as_he$$

The Left has a snowball’s chance in Hell of getting any of their agenda even close to adoption.

Listen to Mark Levin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA


7 posted on 02/04/2015 6:57:23 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SleeperCatcher

FYI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution


8 posted on 02/04/2015 6:57:24 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: ncpatriot
They don't follow the law now. Why do you think adding some more will make any difference?
9 posted on 02/04/2015 6:58:50 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: SleeperCatcher

It may be a challenge for people to even find out who their state legislators are but do what needs to be done and send them the below amendment proposal which one can bet they will like very much because it’s right up their alley, it’s natural to them and has no political repercussions for them.

Here’s what they need to propose as an amendment to the Constitution:
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To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States and to restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.

Section 2.
Upon a majority vote in two-thirds of state legislatures, federal statutes and federal court decisions shall be overridden.

Section 3.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years.
________________________________________

SEND THE ABOVE DRAFT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS, CALL THEM TO CONFIRM THEY RECEIVED IT, THEN GET THEIR FEEDBACK!

Now if Section 1 above is replaced with a repeal of the 17th Amendment, that may be even better but it may be a hard sale. Recalling US Senators gets the job done for state legislatures and it also requires interaction with the voters as they retain the right to vote for their US Senator.

With the above amendment, there would be no Obamacare, no same-sex marriage nonsense and so on. Most of the social issue tyranny would go away.

What substantially remains is a check on federal spending and tax reform. Both are adequately addressed by first passing HR 25 (Senate S-155) which a President Cruz has already pledged to do and by passing HJRes 16 or by similar repeal from the Convention of States.

Here’s the text of HR 25 and also in PDF:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/25/text

https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr25/BILLS-114hr25ih.pdf

and for HJRes 16:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-joint-resolution/16/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22repeal+16th%22%5D%7D

There are plenty of proposed amendments presently in Congress but they go nowhere because they take power away from the federal government.

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22congress%22%3A%5B%22114%22%5D%2C%22type%22%3A%22joint-resolutions%22%7D

On the other hand State Legislatures can convene to do what Congress will not do on its own. And State Legislatures need approval from no one except themselves and the voters that support them.


10 posted on 02/04/2015 6:59:54 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Mark Levin answers all the idiots posing your question.

Listen to Mark Levin, then come back and explain how your question is even relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA


11 posted on 02/04/2015 7:01:44 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
With all due respect to Levin, they will get their agenda into the convention. Who are you going to count on to stop them? The GOPe? The Tea Party? No sale.
12 posted on 02/04/2015 7:01:50 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: SleeperCatcher
A couple of other 'Convention of States' threads if anyone is interested in reading them.

Palin pushes 'Convention of States' to throttle Obama

Twenty States have filed a Convention of States application in their legislatures


13 posted on 02/04/2015 7:03:14 AM PST by deport
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To: mad_as_he$$

How will ‘they’ get their agenda into anything controlled by 66 of 99 Republican state Chambers?

Answer the above. I’m all ears.


14 posted on 02/04/2015 7:03:43 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Oh and thank you for the AH attack, there Mr. high horse. Go screw yourself - typical lib name calling. A convention is a bad idea and I will be here to remind you and Levin of that when it goes off the rails - and I will start name calling then.


15 posted on 02/04/2015 7:06:29 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Hostage
So you are counting on the GOPe to carry the water? Who's the idiot.
16 posted on 02/04/2015 7:08:08 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Hahaha!

You’ve got nothing but wind and piss!

And everyone here with a brain can see it!

Bye-Bye!


17 posted on 02/04/2015 7:08:30 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: mad_as_he$$

That and it will have lots “positive rights.” The new Constitution will “rights” to all sorts taxpayer funded goodies - food, shelter, education, high-speed wireless, cellphones, freedom from “hate,” etc.

After all, who could be against everybody having these things? /sarc


18 posted on 02/04/2015 7:09:49 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Hostage

Nope.
Between fraud, media bias, low information voters and the Free Stuff Army, they have pretty a certainty of getting their agenda passed.


19 posted on 02/04/2015 7:11:23 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: mad_as_he$$
No,it’s not a good thing. The attack on the 2A will be the primary focus of the libs.

IOW - let's maintain the status quo where the Left keeps making inroads and we never do anything to stop it because the fix is never in for us.

Great strategy...

20 posted on 02/04/2015 7:15:52 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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