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1 posted on 02/03/2015 6:15:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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Fools rush in where angels fear to tread


2 posted on 02/03/2015 6:26:02 AM PST by Iron Munro
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Well yeah, the Soviet Union was too powerful for the world, it took all we and the free world had just to survive and protect ourselves from the Russians conquering the world and maintaining empire that for Hitler had been an unrealistic fantasy.

We won that war and the world survived and today we cannot allow that empire to reassemble and reconquer our allies and the free nations of Europe.

Russia today is just a 140 million people nation with 1 year draftees that can barely run itself, there really isn’t a country there big enough for us to surrender to.

“Consider the situation today. East Germany no longer exists, while Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and every one of Russia’s other erstwhile Warsaw Pact partners are now members of NATO. So are Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which in 1989 were parts of the Soviet Union itself. In 1989, the Red Army had almost a half-million troops and 27 maneuver divisions (plus enormous quantities of artillery and other units) on the territory of its three main allies. Today, it has a total of seven divisions in its entire Western Military District, all of which are based on its own territory. Indeed, the entire Russian army today boasts about 25 divisions, fewer than it had forward deployed in its Eastern European allies during the waning days of the Cold War.

Today, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Germany alone field more divisions than Russia has in its Western Military District.”


3 posted on 02/03/2015 6:35:39 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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Buchanan is right about Ukraine, and the folly of American meddling on Russia's border. The introduction of direct military aid to Kiev, along with the US military "advisors" (remember that slippery slope?) already on the ground, may prompt Moscow to intervene directly and overwhelmingly to secure a broad land bridge through the eastern Ukranian oblasts to Crimea. Sevastopol is Russia's one and only warm water port, and that makes Crimea a strategic imperative for Moscow. Ray Charles can see that NATO wants to take Sevastopol from Russia.

What today's American warhawks fail to recognize is that any fight on Russia's own border is an existential threat to Russia. When the 6'5" 300-lb Michael Brown attacked the much smaller Darren Wilson, he gave the police officer the justification to use any force necessary to end the immediate threat to his life. Likewise, if the American military machine jumps into a civil war against Russia's interest along Russia's border in order to sieze a vital Russian port, Moscow will be be justified in using all means at its disposal to end the military threat to its existence. History is full of cocky leaders who thought they knew how things would turn out, but were tragically wrong. This is a very dangerous game, and the civil war in Ukraine is none of our business.

15 posted on 02/03/2015 7:10:15 AM PST by Always A Marine
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The citizens of the (former) United States of America are standing on the shifting sands of a nation that is on the brink of collapse; morally, culturally and economically. They have allowed their educational system to deteriorate to such an extent that the general public is civically illiterate. They have twice elected a President who is clearly bent on the “transformation” of the what once was the greatest nation, healthcare system and value system on earth to just another third world jumble of chaos. And, I might add, has been hugely successful due to the aforementioned civically illiterate population.

And yet, they applaud and cheer the efforts of a malignant narcissist President to instigate, create and encourage chaos by turning his back on tried and true methods of working with allies, who, though not of our ideology, have kept relations from being unmanageable between our nations(Gaddafi, Mubarak and now Netanyahu).

Has everyone forgotten that this President has watched American citizens publicly beheaded along with citizens of other nations and done absolutely nothing and said very little? Has everyone turned a blind eye to our President refusing to call the faction that murdered thousands of us in cold blood terrorists? Has anyone forgotten our President regularly entertaining subversives who encourage and applaud the murder of our law enforcement officers? Has everyone forgotten that our President and his Administration blatantly labored to free a deserter that caused several of his brave fellow soldiers to be killed?

There isn’t enough bandwidth to list all the subversive and traitorous acts that have been committed by this imposter and his minions that we are trusting to send our blood and treasure on his misguided, underhanded attempts. Benghazi is another cloak and dagger, secret operation that cost American lives with no mention of any retribution.

And yet, the American public stands ready and willing to have their attention diverted time and again by the international upsets that are gleefully picked up and magnified by Obama’s dutiful propaganda machine so as to divert attention from the absolute destruction that is going on right under our noses in our own country!

By all means; boots on the ground in a foreign country while our own is being flooded with foreign invaders and a bunch of Communist/Marxist Liberals finish us off!


32 posted on 02/03/2015 7:29:11 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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Comparisons between the relative conventional military strengths of NATO vs. Warsaw Pact in the 1980s and NATO vs. Russia today have emboldened warhawks who are absolutely certain that Russia will never resort to nuclear weapons. But we would be wise to remember the Old West maxim: "God made big men and God made little men, but Sam Colt made them equal."
34 posted on 02/03/2015 7:31:22 AM PST by Always A Marine
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This all started because part of Ukraine wanted to become part of the EU. Let the EU come to their defense then.


36 posted on 02/03/2015 7:34:58 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday ruled out any German supply of weapons to Ukraine, but emphasized that Europe must stay united against Russian aggression.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/world/german-chancellor-rules-out-weapons-aid-to-ukraine.html?_r=0

So much for NATO to the rescue. LOL


45 posted on 02/03/2015 8:10:32 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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“Among Cold War presidents, from Truman to Bush I, there was an unwritten rule: Do not challenge Moscow in its Central and Eastern Europe sphere of influence.”

But things have changed since then. Russians lost the cold war. They fall off the 1st league and now sits in the 2nd row, together with Brazil etc.

Central and Eastern Europe WAS Russia's sphere of influence just like much of Asia WAS Japan's sphere of influence. It simply isn't anymore. It's not a matter of personal opinion, It's a matter of cold facts. 3 decades ago half of Europe was under Kremlin's direct control. Now leaders of these countries can laugh in the face of Kremlin's guy and Kremlin can do nothing except releasing strongly worded statements.

69 posted on 02/03/2015 10:45:28 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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