Posted on 02/01/2015 6:50:05 AM PST by rktman
We were trying to build a central government in a country that never had a central government. Afghanistan is called a country but it is really just a name for a territory housing a bunch of loosely related tribes who occupy the land between Pakistan and the other Central Asian ‘stans. Many of the Afghans, probably the majority, practice a brutal, fundamentalist kind of Islam full of executions, beatings, with special attention being meted out on women and homosexuals. People of different religions aren't exactly favored either, to put it mildly.
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Afghanistan was better in the 60s. Then fundamental islam.
Next time some idiot wants to go “nation building” send him and thirty thousand laptops with a good internet connection and not brave young Americans to be killed and maimed on a fool’s errand.
Because we didn’t use the neutron....same with any other islamic hellhole.
Roger that. Or a huge shipment of cement for some other building projects.
Afcrapistan was lost before ) took office.
old Afghan saying: You have the watch, I have the time.
I think that was the last time Afghanistan had a national government that was considered legitimate by the majority of the population in all provinces. Thus the overwhelming majority of the population has no memory of a functioning central government. A first step would be for whoever is going to be the central government is to explain to the people out in the smaller villages why they need one
Afcrapistan was lost before ) took office.
old Afghan saying: You have the watch, I have the time.
The U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan was already longer than the U.S. involvement in World War I and World War II combined by the time he was inaugurated.
The U.S. lost Afghanistan because his retarded predecessor forgot all the statements he during the 2000 campaign in which he said very clearly that using military resources for "nation-building" wasn't a good idea.
Our foolish and costly adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan began with a false premise, which was that we could bend our enemies' will by a forceful, but less than total, exercise of military power.
Of course, our enemies, who do not live in Kabul or Baghdad but rather Islamabad and Riyadh, were never in any danger from our forces.
I predicted, right here on 9/13/01, that Bush would choose to fight a Vietnam war in South Asia in preference to a war of conquest and victory, which is exactly what he did.
Every false premise of the 1965-75 disaster was replicated in detail in the Iraq and Afghanistan debacles, even down to the "we really won, but..." nonsense. (Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?)
NO.
We "really won" in 1945, and that was the last time.
We didn't "lose Afghanistan", because we never won Afghanistan.
Afganistan would be better off with a King who could command tribal loyalties.
Expecting their people to fight for democracy and freedom in a country where they known only oppression and death is a fools errand.
Inducing them with money to fight is only effective until they face the enemy then they drop their weapons, change their clothes and disappear.
It’s still not too late to spray their opium crops with defoliant.
Apparently a scholar of history is required. To have lost implies that we won.
Perhaps we won because we drove AQ away but we did not win against the Taliban. Absent genocide, such a large part of the population can not be eliminated nor can their religious beliefs be destroyed
AQ was merely chased away and still persists.
At best, and the likely outcome, the Taliban will not take control of all the government and all the territory.
We should have taken a lesson from the Russians, they got out of there KNOWING it was a lost cause.
We should have taken a lesson from the Russians, they got out of there KNOWING it was a lost cause.
Because it wasn’t up for the win. Never was, never will be. Just like the rest of the ME.
We lost because our intervention wasn’t an extinction event for the tribes that supported Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
When neighbors who support our enemies suddenly, violently, and very thoroughly disappear, it sends a message that cannot be ignored.
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