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WaPo: Guns May Serve Defensive Purpose, but CDC Must Confirm
breitbart ^ | Jan. 21, 2015 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 01/22/2015 7:42:29 AM PST by PROCON

On January 16, The Washington Post (WaPo) reported that guns may serve a defensive purpose—that defensive gun uses may be slightly higher than 3 million each year—but we will not know until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) begin their research into guns as a public health issue.

WaPo quoted a New American Magazine article which said, “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cdc; gungrabbers
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It should be noted that the CDC did request a study on gun violence in 2013, but the results of that study “didn’t fit the narrative that guns are dangerous.”

I guess they'll just have to make up their own "study" now.

1 posted on 01/22/2015 7:42:29 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution doesn’t mention self defense.


2 posted on 01/22/2015 7:46:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: PROCON

Firearms are not a disease. The funding language for the CDC should specifically deny any monies being used for any such “study”.

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3 posted on 01/22/2015 7:49:22 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 2A needs its own self defense.....


4 posted on 01/22/2015 7:53:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: PROCON

The CDC couldn’t even do a competent Ebola apt clean up. They have no mission or business being involved with the issue of the 2nd amendment.


5 posted on 01/22/2015 7:53:58 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
CDC was the number one trusted agency in the government

Then next was the VA

In 2013.

Obama has redefined these agencies

6 posted on 01/22/2015 7:56:28 AM PST by scooby321
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To: PROCON
Ignore the facts, wait for our opinion?
7 posted on 01/22/2015 8:01:24 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: scooby321

Pretty sad but then on the other hand look on the bright side. Most of these agencies can’t get out of their own way much less effectively work agains’t gun right. At some point 90 million gun owners are going to “just say no” anyway. Just like the people around the Bundy ranch said no. That was the end of that.


8 posted on 01/22/2015 8:02:47 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: PROCON

The mere fact that the defensive use is being reported is a good thing.


9 posted on 01/22/2015 8:03:40 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: PROCON
There was a time I was pissed off about how the public health officials in Washington let their biases influence their science on the issue of guns.

That was back when I thought that they at least managed to get the public health side of what they did mostly right.

Then I learned about how fundamentally screwed up has been their dietary and exercise advice, for the last 40 years.

Now I'm pissed off at them in general.

Death by Food Pyramid: How Shoddy Science, Sketchy Politics and Shady Special Interests Have Ruined Our Health

10 posted on 01/22/2015 8:03:55 AM PST by jdege
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To: scooby321

everything is a public heath issue.

too much free speech is a heath issue because you could hurt feeeeeeeelings.

fourth amendment rights hurt public health by protecting unruly.

and so on.


11 posted on 01/22/2015 8:05:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: PROCON

CDC? Doesn’t that stand for Clowns Defending Clowns?

Given their record of handling dangerous diseases, they are a threat to national and international health. There is no reason for them to threaten individual safety, too.


12 posted on 01/22/2015 8:06:07 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: PROCON

How about counting all the armed money guards filling ATMs etc. That is probably more than a million a day.

Note that they are allowed ‘open holsters’!


13 posted on 01/22/2015 8:07:02 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: PROCON
The CDC (and their anti-gun backers) have been trying to get this camel's nose under the tent for MANY years. The WaPo needs to answer why it is that, specifically, the CDC is the only "authority" capable of such analysis. The various federal criminal/crime related agencies have been funding such studies for years. Why are THOSE studies not sufficient???

THE most hilarious situtation was when two anti-gun researchers (Jens Ludwig and Graham Cook) were funded by the Department of Justice to study the issue. Previous studies by Kleck had shown that the number of defensive usages were on the order of two million per year. When Ludwig and Cook had compiled and analyzed their data, they found that THEIR OWN DATA showed that such usages were almost ten times larger (TWENTY million per year).

They then spent the rest of their report trying to show why THEIR OWN DATA (supposedly more accurate than Kleck's) just HAD to be wrong.

The study can be easily found on-line at the DOJ website (I've posted the link in several other threads similar to this one).

14 posted on 01/22/2015 8:21:47 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: PROCON

Something we learned during this Ebola outbreak, was how much damage the CDC had done to themselves, to their original purpose, and to their mission in America, by getting into politics.

CDC should have been the ultimate source for information and guidance in disease and pandemics during the Ebola fears, but instead, many mocked or ignored them because they had so damaged their credibility with political issues like guns, establishing that they were not trustworthy to deal in pure facts and couldn’t be depended on to not manipulate, or conceal information, to sell political friendly falsehoods.


15 posted on 01/22/2015 8:25:20 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: PROCON

Will the CDC also study the health impact of knives, baseball bats, roller skates and other devices known to cause bodily injury in even larger numbers than firearms?


16 posted on 01/22/2015 8:27:54 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution doesn’t mention self defense.

Yes it does. It is right next to the mention of Centers for Disease Control.

17 posted on 01/22/2015 8:34:15 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: PROCON

The libtard should have been shot.

But seriously, I believe that it is very important that CCW holders realize that the purpose here is to keep your weapon CONCEALED! Otherwise you may find yourself the target of law enforcement or a bad guy that might shoot you first when about to commit a robbery, seeing that you are wearing a gun and pose a threat to him.


OOPS? Florida man tries to be a hero and tackles LEGAL gun owner

Posted on Jan 22, 2015 at 10:32 AM in Politics | 14 Comments
By The Right Scoop

This man must be a liberal type who thought he was saving the world by tackling this legal gun owner:

FOX TAMPA – According to the sheriff’s office, Michael Foster, 43, saw Clarence Daniels, 62, in the Walmart parking lot with a gun holstered under his coat.

Foster followed Daniels into the store, put him in a choke-hold and brought him to the ground, the sheriff’s office said. He then started yelling that Daniels had a gun.

A struggle ensued, with Daniels yelling that he had a permit. Security detained both men until deputies arrived.

They confirmed Daniels had a permit for the gun, and arrested Foster.

He is charged with one count of battery.

He deserved to get arrested and I’m glad he did. Maybe next time this libtard won’t freak out when he sees someone with a gun.

VIDEO: http://therightscoop.com/oops-florida-man-tries-to-be-a-hero-and-tackles-legal-gun-owner/


18 posted on 01/22/2015 8:52:33 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: PROCON

19 posted on 01/22/2015 9:11:33 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Paladin2

This is surely the work of our new Surgeon General Vivek H. Murthy. He has a long history as a gun grabber and believes that firearms are a public health issue. He approved by Congress on 15 Dec. 14. this didn’t take long, it seems.


20 posted on 01/22/2015 9:11:44 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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