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Cruz: Abolish The IRS
The Daily Caller ^ | January 12, 2015 | Rachel Stoltzfoos

Posted on 01/12/2015 6:21:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have seen him take questions in what appeared to be an impromptu interview and field them with the right answers and no hesitation. Either the event was very well scripted and produced, or more likely, you are right. He is quick off the cuff and the answers were good.


61 posted on 01/12/2015 7:07:14 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
vote me in/yes!..
not just yes,
but HELL! YES! 👍

62 posted on 01/12/2015 7:08:15 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: gaijin
Their budget is something like $11 billion, after the “huge budget cut” of $1 billion, for having made themselves a tool of partisan political terror.

It should be ZERO.

and many should be in prison.

HOORAY gaijin. HOORAY Cruz.

63 posted on 01/12/2015 7:09:16 PM PST by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is right. Then go after BLM, TSA, and Homeland Security. They are all instruments of tyranny.


64 posted on 01/12/2015 7:09:30 PM PST by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: PapaNew
No income tax, repeal the 16th amendment . It wasn't even really ratified. Plus the liberal media held a worse monopoly back then : there was no Internet. Today that 16th amendment would never pass. Put that to a vote of the people income tax or no income tax . WE The People say NO!
65 posted on 01/12/2015 7:11:32 PM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: exit82
And let’s abolish the EPA, the Dept. of Education, and the Department, the BATF, and assorted alphabet agencies that are no longer needed completely unconstitutional.
66 posted on 01/12/2015 7:16:49 PM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: HMS Surprise
The concept of taxing “income” is antithetical [to] freedom.

Yes it is, and in so many ways. Truer words were never spoken.

It consistently amazes me how many so-called conservatives are willing to tolerate the Marxist Tyranny known as the "progressive" income tax, not to mention inheritance taxes and a fractional reserve banking system, all of which are central planks of the Communist Manifesto.

We don't need a "kinder, gentler" income tax: we need to renounce it as the collectivist abomination that it is, and abolish it altogether.

Just because we, our parents, and our grandparents had to submit to this horrible Statist construct doesn't mean we should resignedly allow it to be imposed on our posterity...

67 posted on 01/12/2015 7:21:14 PM PST by sargon
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To: Smokin' Joe

68 posted on 01/12/2015 7:24:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Democrat_media
First problem: repealing the 16th Amendment which is such a long shot, it's almost not worth talking about. Bye, bye "consumption" tax which has the potential to be as complex and intrusive as the current income tax.

Second, the goal should be a tax that is SIMPLE and LOW. A 10%-15% flat tax fits that bill. Everybody pays the same % tax. Bye, bye 74,000-page tax code. Bye, bye giant, threatening IRS. Hello economic boom in America greater even than the 25-year economic boom following Reagan's tax cuts.

69 posted on 01/12/2015 7:32:59 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Taxman

No, the FairTax is not the only way.

This is why so many people do not buy the line that the FairTax this and the FairTax that. The FairTax is only one means of tax collection. It does not address the longevity of the IRS, it does not limit spending, it does make the problems with entitlements “go away”.


70 posted on 01/12/2015 7:33:33 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Like I said earlier, the current income tax is a major impediment to real economic recovery considering these downsides:

1. 30,000M tax lobbyists--HALF the lobbyists in Washington, DC--fighting for every scrap of a tax loophole. And you get political corruption on a huge scale over this.
2. The result is a tax code over 75,000 pages long so complex that it makes James Joyce's famously unreadable Finnegans Wake almost easy to read in comparison. Even the IRS can't figure out much of the tax code!
3. The sheer complexity means exorbitant yearly compliance and economic opportunity costs, estimated by some economists to soon approach US$1 TRILLION per year (and climbing fast in each subsequent year, especially with the imposition of Obamacare mandates through the tax code).
4. It also encourages the outsourcing of millions of jobs, thousands of factories, and hundreds of corporate headquarters for tax avoidance reasons. Care to explain why Apple manufactures its products in China, and why Google has to used that highly-complex and expensive Double Irish with Dutch Sandwich accounting scheme to lower its tax bill?
5. It results in (by some estimates) around US$15 TRILLION in American-owned liquid assets sitting in offshore financial centers and other foreign banks for tax avoidance reasons (care to explain all those "banks" in the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, and so on? Or why Apple has 70% of its US$147 billion liquid asset reserve outside the USA?).
6. Government uses the tax code as a political instrument to favor or punish political constituencies as little as ONE taxpaying entity. The recent scandal using the IRS to target conservative 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) groups is clear proof of this.
7. Because the IRS needs to know intimate details of personal and business financial records in tax return filings, there are potentially serious issues with invasion of privacy. Care to explain why former Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's private tax returns ended up in the offices of Senator Harry Reid (D-NV)?
8. The IRS assumes you're guilty of tax evasion, and you end up having less rights than most common criminals!

Complete economic and political insanity. Now you know my tagline....

71 posted on 01/12/2015 7:35:44 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I disagree. The problem is that the IRS's income tax division has become politicized and is making decisions based on the usual leftie bureaucrat criteria. The solution is replace both personal and corporate income taxes with value added taxes, and then abolish the IRS's income tax division as unnecessary. That would accomplish the objective while maintaining federal tax revenue.

But this won't happen until it's done by a new constitutional convention, because the single greatest source of Congressional graft are bribes aka campaign contributions in exchange for tax breaks.

72 posted on 01/12/2015 7:36:12 PM PST by Thud
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz ... a true conservative hero.


73 posted on 01/12/2015 7:37:19 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: PapaNew
FLAT TAX. SIMPLE. Period.

Yep. No prebate, no swarm of bureaucrats. Don't pay on the first 1.5 X poverty level, pay 10% on the rest.

No muss, no fuss.

74 posted on 01/12/2015 7:49:27 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: sargon

Agreed. Nice synopsis.


76 posted on 01/12/2015 7:51:54 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
EPA, first on the chopping block. And all residue of their existence erased from the map.
77 posted on 01/12/2015 7:53:28 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: PapaNew

A flat tax can’t exist when the 16th Amendment is repealed.


78 posted on 01/12/2015 8:05:52 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Regarding abolishing the IRS, I’d also like for Congress to require the Congressional Budgeting Office (CBO) to announce when an appropriations bill authorizes spending for things that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Additionally, I’d like to see the language in Justice John Marshall’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to lay taxes amended to the Constitution.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, v. Ogden, 1824.

79 posted on 01/12/2015 8:11:11 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Republicans will get walloped in 2016 if they return to business as usual”

“(GOP) business as usual”: Jeb Bush awards Hillary Clinton a medal, while Darrell Issa pretends to go after the IRS and Holder, et al., and so forth and so on, and John Boehner punishes conservatives.

Ted Cruz or bust in 2016!


80 posted on 01/12/2015 8:12:39 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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