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There Are some Bad Cops, but the Real Problem Is Bad Laws
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2015 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 01/09/2015 9:54:13 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: DoodleDawg
And yet criticizing the bad cops gets you painted as anti-police around here. Go figure.

My way of answering those false charges is listing just a few of the stories which have been discussed here on FR. They should be immediately below this post.

21 posted on 01/09/2015 10:32:30 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: DoodleDawg
No Freeper set these cops up, they brought the disgrace, humiliation, and loss of public support on themselves. .:

Man charged for shooting when cops went to wrong house (Jury finds him innocent) WAVY ^ | July 15, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180907/posts

Sober woman arrested for DWI after deputy rolls through stop sign NewsChannel 3 WTKR ^ | May 2, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154158/posts

Elderly man calls for ambulance, violent cops beat him instead daily caller ^ | 4-21-14 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3147475/posts

Horror: Cops tackle, beat, pepper-spray, pin, suffocate, kill innocent man Daily Caller ^ | 02/25/2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3127187/posts

Wisconsin Police Chief Pleads No Contest to Harassing Tea Party Leader The La Crosse Tribune ^ | 7/26/2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3185371/posts

Six-year-old girl watches in horror as police 'shoot dead her dog Apollo in her front yard ‎7‎/‎28‎/‎2014 ‎ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186053/posts

NYPD officer pictured 'putting seven-months pregnant woman into a chokehold for illegally grilling outside her apartment' July 28, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186193/posts

Man beaten, three SAPD officers investigated for possible excessive force July 24, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3187839/posts

Officer Puts Gun To Boy’s Throat In McDonald’s Drive Thru For Taking Too Long | Aug 2, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3188244/posts

San Antonio police mistake photographer for fleeing drug suspect, beat him silly Washington Post ^ | July 29, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186590/posts

Trooper filmed 'brutally beating woman on side of California Hwy (For Her "Protection") Daily Mail ^ | 7-4-2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3176062/posts

A SWAT team blew a hole in my 2-year-old son Salon ^ | June 24, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3172322/posts

Veteran Stopped for No Front License Plate, Beat to Death by 5 Cops ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2014 ‎http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3157894/posts

Officer shot in road rage clash also indicted Pioneer Press ^ | 8-10-14 | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3191425/posts

Off-Duty LAPD Officer Apparently Pointing Gun in Photo NBC Bay Area ^ | Sunday, Aug 10, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3191691/posts

Chief: Police killed California robbery hostage [police shot hostage 10 times]] Associated Press ^ | August 11, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3191771/posts

St. Paul police officer allegedly left scene of (His) accident Pioneer Press ^ | 8-11-14 |http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3191748/posts

South Florida Man Fights Back After Felony Arrest Liveleak.com ^ | 08/21/2014 | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3195726/posts

Connecticut trooper pleads guilty to stealing dying motorcycle crash victim’s jewelry, moneyNY Daily News ^ | Thursday, July 17, 2014, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3196069/posts

Eyewitnesses recall the day when Brandon Ellington Drown in the Lake of the Ozarks (State Trooper caused drowning) Kansas City Star ^ | 8-23-14 | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3196495/posts

Texas cops defend pulling over mother of four at gunpoint Sun News Network ^ | 8-25-14 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3196759/posts

Cop Hits Man in the Head 20 Times as Onlookers Plead 'Don't Punch Him No More 'Reason ^ | August 25, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3196991/posts

Kentucky: Lawsuit Restored Against Cop Caught Lying About Traffic Stop theNewspaper ^ | 8/26/2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3197342/posts

(Police) Corruption in the City of Waldo exposed (FL) Ocala Post ^ | August 28, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3198777/posts

Oklahoma City cop charged with sexually assaulting eight women is released on bondNY Daily News ^ | 9/7/14 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3201380/posts

SC trooper charged with felony in shooting at traffic stop over seat belt violationThe State ^ 09/24/2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3208138/posts

Man killed by cops after car thief alleges meth find (No drugs found) Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 03 Oct 14 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3211655/posts

SEE IT: NYPD cop allegedly took $1,300 in cash from Brooklyn construction worker’s pocket http://www.nydailynews.com ^ | october 8, 2014 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212986/posts


22 posted on 01/09/2015 10:32:59 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: BlackAdderess

So what you’re suggesting as long as cops and their unions get what they want and continue to be paid and rewarded to enforce them, they’ll continue to do exactly what they’re told?

All because the more punitive laws created, the more tax money they get?

Hmmm.


23 posted on 01/09/2015 10:35:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BlackAdderess

BTW, I never ever once saw any national, highly public movement like that?

Can I see the link?

Thanks


24 posted on 01/09/2015 10:38:27 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Tell me, when was the last time tens of thousands of cops and their powerful government unions publicly came out against all these bad endless controlling laws which they’re rewarded and paid to enforce?

In New York, the police came out to protest the "oppressive" law that tried to bar them from fixing tickets of relatives and friends


25 posted on 01/09/2015 10:40:36 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

LOL!


26 posted on 01/09/2015 10:44:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kaslin

The popo is not your friend.


27 posted on 01/09/2015 10:51:43 AM PST by Augie
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To: Augie

Amen to that!


28 posted on 01/09/2015 10:54:04 AM PST by sport
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To: 556x45

To paint cops or laws with a broad brush is like blaming Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Medicine or Big Fast Food. It lets piss ants rant about the injustices they bring on themselves.

The police didn’t become an adversary to the people until the people decided to have them become their nanny and then didn’t like nanny’s rules.

Until we value and accept individual responsibility, no amount of bad legislation or enforcement of the same is going to fix lazy, bad values.


29 posted on 01/09/2015 11:07:32 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: dragnet2

They are called Oath Keepers (and I can’t cut and paste from this device).


30 posted on 01/09/2015 11:22:42 AM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: dragnet2

So perhaps the thing to do is to clean up the legal environment in which the police operate, and BTW, the lions share of that is going to be a rat’s nest of precedent law. Our lovely lawyerly representatives routinely write code so full of holes that the real meaning of the law is hammered out by the courts far from the prying eyes of the voters. Everything on the books is interpreted through this lens, so it really is a matter of what “is” is :(


31 posted on 01/09/2015 11:35:52 AM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: BlackAdderess

Get real...


32 posted on 01/09/2015 11:46:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: manc

There are also many good nurses and some that should have never become nurses. The same with teachers


33 posted on 01/09/2015 11:49:42 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Disambiguator

Yea on I-75 going through Valdosta to Tifton where they hide on the overpasses and off ramps.
It’s one place no one wants to speed and yes if I got caught speeding then it is my fault as I knew the speed limit.


34 posted on 01/09/2015 11:57:59 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kaslin
I heard an interesting line that got me thinking this morning while watching Fox News’s coverage of what was going on in Paris. They were talking about the fact that there is no death penalty in France and in fact, they don’t even have a penalty for life imprisonment (just repeating what I heard and I haven’t verified if this is true). Anyway, one of the hosts stated that there was no death penalty “unless a cop shoots and kills one of the terrorists”…..and it got me wondering about the subtle ways in places with no death penalty that police seem to be acting as if this is now part of their role.

I highly doubt that those against the death penalty ever considered this as an outcome that would gradually become the case.....not thinking so much of the terrorist drama currently unfolding but of many other instances where the MO seems to be more of a 'shoot first and ask questions later' than it ever has been in the past.

35 posted on 01/09/2015 11:59:32 AM PST by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Kaslin

Disagree, the real problem is black crime. For a so called minority, the blacks are responsible for an overwhelming amount of violent crime. Hence they will have more interactions with police.


36 posted on 01/09/2015 12:01:06 PM PST by kenmcg
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To: driftdiver

There were some speed traps many years here in my town, where the cops set at the bottom of of some hills. You practically had to ride your brakes all the way down so you were able to keep the speed limit. One of the judges here in our courthouse made them stop.


37 posted on 01/09/2015 12:03:10 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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38 posted on 01/09/2015 12:06:57 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

If “a spotless record” can be so effortlessly besmirched, I would submit that “record” carries no weight then as a measure of one’s character. Jesus Christ was, after all, a “criminal”.


39 posted on 01/09/2015 12:09:25 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: kenmcg

Exactly


40 posted on 01/09/2015 12:10:07 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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