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To: taxcontrol

Sad, but true. In a sense we are entitled to it once a certain age is reached, so maybe that’s where the idea comes from. Can a person receive SS benefits if they have never worked for an employer who deducts this from the paychecK? Self-employed people are not entitled to it - so most set up private IRA accounts for their retirement. We never get a return on what we paid into SS - they continue to rip off the American public with what they “entitle” you to receive each month. And, yes, it is a ponzi scheme.


16 posted on 01/08/2015 8:51:47 AM PST by Catsrus (al)
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To: Catsrus
Self-employed people are not entitled to it - so most set up private IRA accounts for their retirement.

Self-employed workers must pay into SS, paying both the individual and employer's shares. They are not exempt from SS.

30 posted on 01/08/2015 8:57:38 AM PST by kabar
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To: Catsrus

A few minor corrections:

1) Yes a person who never paid into SS can receive benefits - based on being a survivor of someone else who did pay in.

2) Self employed do pay into SS, their tax rate is 12.4%. 6.2% from yourself like everyone else and 6.2% from your employer which in this case is also yourself. This is true for the first $117,000

see http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10022.pdf for more details.


31 posted on 01/08/2015 8:58:18 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Catsrus

Self employed people pay both the employer and employee sides of SS in taxes.

I know since I run a one man business - me.

I’ve paid over $150,000 into SS over my lifetime and if I start drawing at 62 I’ll pull every dime out in less than 9 years - by 71 years old.

Most people in my family live well into their 80’s.


32 posted on 01/08/2015 8:59:52 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Catsrus
Self-employed people are not entitled to it

What a crock...

Self employed people have to pay both the Employee part and the Employer part.

62 posted on 01/08/2015 9:22:01 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Catsrus
Self-employed people are not entitled to it

Self employed people pay in both sides of it (self-employment tax), not just half.

67 posted on 01/08/2015 9:26:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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