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Mon, 29 Dec 2014 | unknown

Posted on 01/08/2015 8:42:01 AM PST by drypowder

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To: DiogenesLamp

“People working today need to plan.....” I heard this almost from the day I started in the work force & never doubted it. However,after about so many years in the work force (as a skilled tradesman)I realized there wasn’t much hope for this & paying the bills at the same time. I suspect there are many in this position through no fault of their own.


141 posted on 01/08/2015 5:09:39 PM PST by oldtech
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Fleming v. Nestor 1960 established the principle that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not a contractual right.

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142 posted on 01/08/2015 5:10:30 PM PST by QT3.14 (GOP: Dead party walking)
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To: drypowder
The Federal Government does not have to pay you anything for social security. The SCOTUS has decided this more than 50 years ago. SS can be used any way the government wants to, and you have to continue to pay the tax.

That's why the government is talking about reducing benefits, they know that they don't have to pay out on the Ponzi scheme.

their idea of "saving" social security once every 10 years or so is just for show. When all they are going to do is raise taxes and cut benefits.

143 posted on 01/08/2015 5:12:15 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Go_Raiders

They didn’t invest the Social Security money .. it was supposed to have been put into a Trust Fund, and saved for those who retired .. PERIOD! It was for awhile .. but all the Trust Fund contains today are I.O.U.’s. And now, the free ride is going to end possibly by the end of 2016 - instead of 2034.

People can argue that’s not true .. but I’ve spoken one-on-one with people who have seen the drawer filled with the IOU documents. So, I will not discuss this anymore .. because all the liberals have descended upon me, trying to erase that information.

I know what I know .. and you’ll never convince me otherwise.

And .. in case you’re interested .. FICA IS NOT SOCIAL SECURITY.


144 posted on 01/08/2015 5:20:41 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: oldtech
“People working today need to plan.....” I heard this almost from the day I started in the work force & never doubted it. However,after about so many years in the work force (as a skilled tradesman)I realized there wasn’t much hope for this & paying the bills at the same time. I suspect there are many in this position through no fault of their own.

Amen.

145 posted on 01/08/2015 7:39:30 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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“all the Trust Fund contains today are I.O.U.’s”

It’s worse than that: all the Trust Fund contains today are demands for payments for loans. Loans made to support welfare.


146 posted on 01/08/2015 7:47:12 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: CyberAnt

Ah yes, the magic Trust Fund delusion.

The only instrument for Government to invest in is and always has been Treasury Bills. The cash simply is transformed into Public Debt.

The beauty in this Ponzi scheme is its reliance on fools like you who think it can somehow be fixed. If you want to convert it to a private system then say so. If not, then shut up and take what your Government masters deign to give you.


147 posted on 01/09/2015 8:28:05 PM PST by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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Wow!

Who the hell are you to tell me to “shut up”.

You’re the one who’s THE LIAR .. and we’ve seen your type before on these threads.

You’ll never win .. because WE KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.

ROTFLMAO


148 posted on 01/10/2015 4:28:47 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: drypowder

“9% of people won’t forward this. “

Basically the same as saying “this information is fabricated”.


149 posted on 01/10/2015 4:33:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And they can see you from orbit. No, you can’t hide.

True enough, but that can be used to our advantage. “They” can’t do much in secret either. So, as I believe Alexander S. proposed, when the enemy arrives at your door, you do your level best to see no one returns to the office. There are more of “us” than “them”, so ultimately those willing to make the sacrifice will ensure that sooner rather than later “they” run out of agents to harass the people.


150 posted on 01/10/2015 2:47:56 PM PST by wita
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