[jjsheridan5]

True, but if the premise is that 5 conservative Rs switch to Ind will cause the Senate GOPe leadership to be more conservative ...

Except, that isn't the premise. At this point, who cares what the Republicans do. They are a broken party, completely divorced from the voters who put them there, and a co-conspirator in trying to fundamentally change this country. This isn't about trying to change the hearts and minds of GOP leadership. It is about providing the ~86% of Republican voters who oppose the current liberal leadership, an alternative. UKIP is the model, and USIP is the goal. Anything else is just spinning the wheels.

As long as we look at the Republican party as something salvageable, we have lost. As soon as we look beyond the Republican party, we have begun the journey towards providing a meaningful opposition to liberalism.

[kosciusko51]

So, in your opinion, would 5 conservative senators switching from R to I be helpful or detrimental to the conservative cause?