At awkward time, Wisconsin's Walker faces GOP rift

Yahoo News ^ | 01/02/2015 | SCOTT BAUER

[ObamahatesPACoal]

Walker’s touting of great crop of Governors (which he refuses to exclude Christie & Bush in the touted group) is a slap in the face to Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and other great GOP members in congress.

The media touts GOP governors so they can bash Congress indirectly.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/218055/say-it-aint-so-mike/congressman-steve-king

Mike Pence is another one of these RINOs lurking the shadows.

Apparently the GOP should where possible have a legislative that caves and causes no trouble for the executive.

http://www.aspeninstitute.org/video/republican-governors-whats-working-state-level

A conversation featuring Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey, Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Governor Mike Pence of Indiana, and Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

[Rockitz]

Walker-Carson 2016!

[ifinnegan]

“Scott Bauer wishes! Wisconsin Stands With Walker...”

I think so.

Walker has earned more than the benefit of the doubt.

[irish guard]

From your lips to God’s ears....I’ve spread some stuff and don’t get all the way to open borders the way you do....so whatever, I’m still very comfortable with him as a presidential candidate.

[iowacornman]

This is great news. Walker got all wobbly. Let this ring true for the Bushies and amnesty lovers running for president. They aint seen nothing yet. I saw speculation that Bush is going to try to stay out of Iowa. He couldn’t win Iowa ever but to wimp out is verry weak from a man.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Ditto.

I, for one, am fed up with so called conservatives who walked away from Jim Talent and gave us Claire McCackle. Talent wasn't pure enough.

[ObamahatesPACoal]

Dummies Ted Cruz & Mike Lee don’t have the brains apparently to know where to sign if they were executive.

Rand Paul, Eye Doctor, apparently also have the dexterity to move a pen if he wanted to be executive.

[irish guard]

Please take the time to see what Walker did in Wisconsin.. Death threats to his family over his agenda and he stayed with it. All the folks here that latch onto a carefully worded statement fall into the tr Obama laid for America. Too many watched what he said not what he did. Look at what Walker did not what he says. For Pete’s sake, we should all at least learn from the past.

[itsahoot]

Then it becomes an issue

It became an issue when he publicly asked his legislature not to bother with it.

[SoConPubbie]

Pence simply does not.

Perry, in the last election, was tolerant of the dreamers. I think he’s changed his tune a bit on that.

Here is a synopsis by Rep. Steve King of the "Pence Immigration Plan from an editorial posted on Heritage:

Say It Ain’t So, Mike - Congressman Steve King

Many Republicans aren’t happy at all with the president’s plans, and so we had the makings of a fight. The opponents stepped up into the ring: in one corner, with a big, bright, scarlet letter “A” branded on their robes, were the amnesty mercenaries of the Senate, representing 42 percent of Republicans and 91 percent of Democrats; in the opposite corner, supported by the rule of law, were the patriotic passengers and crew of Lifeboat America, representing 88 percent of House Republicans and 18 percent of House Democrats. Then into the middle walked Congressman Pence to present his “no amnesty” (not right away, at least) “real rational middle ground” speech, in an effort to broker the peace and call off the battle royal. Pence injected into the debate the wrong kind of proposal at the worst possible time.

He teases conservatives with a “free market approach” that sets up private companies as “Ellis Island Centers” in foreign countries, where applications from aliens for temporary work cards to work legally in the U.S. can be processed. The bill requires all illegals who seek legalization to self-deport back to their home countries for papers, in an effort to avoid the strong objections to amnesty. There would be no limits (even the Bush-Kennedy-McCain Senate bill has limits) set on the number of “guest workers” during the first three years, so that the market could establish the demand for cheap labor. The open-border lobby calls it “labor market equilibrium.” The Pence plan says that “a reasonable limit…will be determined by the Department of Labor.” The plan would cede congressional constitutional authority over immigration to a presidential appointee who could expand the number of immigrants by millions. The power to transform America irrevocably would be granted to a bureaucrat to be named later by a president to be elected later. How many voting, legalized immigrants does Pence think would be too many for a President Hillary?

The Pence plan is a siren song, even more dangerous than the Senate bill, because it threatens to lure Lifeboat America onto the rocks to be sunk in the hazardous Sea of Presumption. No matter how promising the placid waters look, how enchanting the melody of enforcement sounds, or how luring the lyrics for legalizing cheap labor may seem, the result will be tens of millions of aliens pouring across our borders, both newly legalized and illegal. Without the will to deport, there exists no deterrent to stop them from coming. In fact, the Pence plan will add power to the jobs magnet, attracting more aliens.

The Pence plan has other major flaws. “Ellis Island Centers” would operate predominately in Mexico, earning a commission to process employees for American companies. Employers of illegals will offer a premium to centers to circumvent the law by legalizing their current employees without requiring them to return to their home countries. If this effort fails, employers will then require “Ellis Island Center” companies to pre-clear employees before sending them back home for a day. Free markets do not pay for bad or no results. That is why the government does background checks, not the hirelings of law breakers. The result would be chartered buses, loaded with illegal employees, making round-trips to Juarez, Nogales, and Tijuana“”

It is a major flaw to presume that “Ellis Island Centers” could process background checks more efficiently than the government, for they would still have to rely on U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) databases. Also, the beneficiaries of the services would be only those pre-cleared for specific employers. No one will leave America without a guarantee of a job upon return. Illegals who work here will stay here. More illegals will come on the promise of amnesty, and the 12 to 20 million in our midst will become 70 to 90 million within a generation. The Pence plan grants six years to each guest worker. If Pence is not willing to deport those here illegally now, why would he be willing to pull them out by their roots after an additional six years? This is the veil over the path to citizenship. Under the Pence “no amnesty” plan, citizenship becomes the implied reward and delayed amnesty the inevitable result.

His plan is just another form of Amnesty.

[SoConPubbie]

Xzins,

The devil is always in the details and the true problem is that Mike Pence thought he had to put forward an Immigration plan when instead, he should have just called for a fence and enforcing the current laws on immigration.

[ObamahatesPACoal]

Walker signed onto a popular agenda and hired bodyguards.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/scott-walker-immigration_n_2251264.html

“I think that would be a huge distraction for us in the state,” he said.

(SNIP)

Walker said as a candidate in May 2010 that he would sign an Arizona-style bill if he were elected, after initially saying he had serious concerns about the law, SB 1070.

http://www.thehispanicconservative.com/Scott-Walker/on-scott-walkers-immigration-problem.html

Scott Walker has taken heat the past few weeks for his stance on Arizona’s bill. In an interview with El Conquistador, Walker spoke out against the bill saying that the Arizona law usurped the rights of the federal government and provided broad powers to local officials.

Two weeks after our interview, the Associated Press (AP) got involved and published Walker’s view on Arizona’s law. This caused a disturbance on Walker’s Facebook page. Some supporters said they were stunned by his position, and others said they were changing their support to Mark Neumann. The next day, Walker released a statement saying he was now satisfied with Arizona’s modified bill (HB2162C). He said the revised bill did not violate the 10th Amendment, and it also provided sufficient safeguards to protect against racial profiling.

[irish guard]

Ah...so bodyguards are all you need there? You have no idea what went on here day after day while Act 10 was being debated.....and bodyguards didn’t accompany his kids to school who were threatened. But then to you its just hiring some body guards. Sorry to say...you haven’t a clue

[ObamahatesPACoal]

Mike Pence when the GOP were near their weakest point in 2006-2007 tried to rescue the amnesty agenda of Bush.

When the GOP were weak in 2012-2013 the same wimps and vultures emerged.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20131120gop-governors-immigration-reform.html

At some point, D.C. needs to actually do something, say something,” said Haley, who also did not offer an opinion on details such as a path to citizenship. “It is causing a divide across this country, the longer they put off making a decision.”

Others at the Phoenix gathering offered varying views on immigration reform.

Some, such as Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Florida Gov. Rick Scott and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, advocated for securing the border first, which for years has been a common Republican refrain.

“You could do a 21st-century, modern, guest-worker program without amnesty and solve the problem going forward for this country,” added Pence, a former U.S. representative.

(SNIP)

“Mexicans now living without authorization in the United States will go home to better jobs, he said.”

LOL. Rick Perry touting self deportation like Romney and Kobach did.

[donozark]

Walker is not the only Governor facing the coming Right to Work battle. Missouri legislators have pre-filed RTW. NM,OH, NH, and of course, WI have introduced or plan to, Right to Work legislation.

CO, KY, MT,and PA are likely to. Looks like an interesting month!!

[Magnum44]

I am not from his state so I don’t know the details, but it seems in the article he laid out priorities regarding budget and tax cuts. He seems to think those are attainable goals where RTO may be a hornets nest. Again, I don’t know the full motivation, but I don’t have a problem with political astuteness. I still think the article is simply a new years hit piece. I still think if the legislature puts a bill on his desk, that he would probably sign it rather than veto it, so I put the ball in the legislatures court.

[terycarl]

whether they’re from Mexico or any other country—to do so legally and easily.

why is that an open borders policy???, our legal immigraton policy sucks...make it a lot easier, put necessary restrictions on it, make it available, and regulate those who use it.....just like every other country!!!

[itsahoot]

I still think if the legislature puts a bill on his desk, that he would probably sign it rather than veto it, so I put the ball in the legislatures court.

That is the legislature's intent, Walker asked them not to because there were more important issues. I guess he presumes they can only do one thing at a time.

[Alas Babylon!]

I saw her on a hunting show take a buck. Now that’s a governor I can support! Needs to bring that rifle to Washington DC!

[terycarl]

Walker’s touting of great crop of Governors (which he refuses to exclude Christie & Bush in the touted group) is a slap in the face to Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and other great GOP members in congress.

Mike Pence is another one of these RINOs lurking the shadows.

your first point was ludicrous at best....your second point indicates that you know NOTHING about conservative Republicans.....NOTHING.........Pence a Rino???Yeah, right....pathetic