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The Leftie Milbank to inspire civic engagement wants to force or nudge people into national service. So in Dana's world not only do I work for the government 25% - 50% of my time paying taxes now he wants to force me to do actual labor on stuff the gov't deems important. No Dana I do not want to be even more a serf for Washington. Dana mentions Dauphin Bush, Marco Robio, Portman, and Romney all have expressed interest in nudging people into the doing service.
1 posted on 12/31/2014 6:17:55 AM PST by C19fan
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Service? Sounds more like slavery.


2 posted on 12/31/2014 6:20:15 AM PST by all the best
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Its a great way to build an anti war movement now that Obama is on his way out.


3 posted on 12/31/2014 6:25:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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5 posted on 12/31/2014 6:27:25 AM PST by Bon mots (American Exceptionalism becomes American Acceptionalism under this regime... :()
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Eff ‘em.

Let them fall by the wayside.

If they can’t motivate themselves they are nothing worthless floor sweepings.

Ask any vet who had to serve alongside of whiny draftees who didn’t want to be where they were.


6 posted on 12/31/2014 6:31:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (Conservative Epitaph: Don't Cry For Me , You Still Have Two More Years Of Obama)
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The bloated corrupt congressman Chuck Rangel has called for a draft for many years.

The reason: he wants to create an anti-war movement.


7 posted on 12/31/2014 6:35:42 AM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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The Great Draft Dodge: Karl Eikenberry and what Americans lost when they stopped fighting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3237659/posts

How I Learned to Love the Draft
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3241898/posts


8 posted on 12/31/2014 6:37:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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How many of the above mentioned men served in the armed forces?


9 posted on 12/31/2014 6:38:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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The draft served a very good purpose in that it tore high school graduates away from mommy and daddy and showed them there was a world out there!

Once you are in the military you find you would rather be back with your military pals than home where everyone thinks you are still just a kid.

Three days leave is about all I could stand of a two week leave. I always felt more “free” back on the base.


10 posted on 12/31/2014 6:51:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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"Bring Back the Draft"

Just say "No."

11 posted on 12/31/2014 6:55:46 AM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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You again. The rest of us are tired of hearing how loath you are to risk your life or just your comfort for the county's defense.

Sounds less like a crusade for freedom than an excuse for gutlessness.

12 posted on 12/31/2014 6:57:02 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Dana’s such a d-bag.

He takes his omnipresent “Bush’s fault” shot early in the article, saying that the only sacrifice Bush asked for after 9-11 was to continue spending money.

He then says that the solution is some form national service. Like Peace Corps and Americorps.

Afterwhich he notes that Bush EXPANDED both in the wake of 9-11.

???????

So the guy, and his editors, missed that he completely contradicts himself within the space of a few paragraphs. Are they idiots? Were they drunk? Both?


13 posted on 12/31/2014 6:58:28 AM PST by tanknetter
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How about if we create a healthy economy with jobs.


15 posted on 12/31/2014 7:23:02 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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I thought this article would be amusing, so I read it in full and it didn't disappoint. The author, so clueless, fails to note that the reason these “slactivists” are uninspired is because any possible source of national inspiration has been killed throughout their upbringing. They have no knowledge of national history, from which patriotism and the desire to contribute might emanate. They have little or no geopolitical knowledge and simultaneously imagine themselves to be all-knowing, because they have instant access to information on the internet. Unfortunately, they have no knowledge base for filtering fact from fiction. The cure is obvious, and it ain't the draft.
18 posted on 12/31/2014 8:20:13 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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National service should be fought with everything we have, because it will be a sort of militant training/indoctrination service, to create leftists and leftist cadre/leaders/activists.

The draft needs to be discussed, we cannot fight major wars with an expensive, 50% female military, that is heading in the direction of eventually becoming unionized, and just another federal career job measured by pay, benefits, and quality of life issues.


22 posted on 12/31/2014 9:30:48 AM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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I wanted to do something for my country during the holidays, so I went to the movies.

Puke.

30 posted on 12/31/2014 11:17:59 AM PST by NorthMountain
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Modern proposals far the draft have nothing to do with military need. There’s no need for uniformed cannon fodder these days.

This is about brainwashing, pure and simple. The government-knows-best nannies, from the Left and the Right, running wild.


34 posted on 12/31/2014 4:30:20 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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Dana Milbank never served. When I start hearing calls for a draft from someone who actually might be subject to one, I'll listen.

A universal military draft won't work - there are simply too many 18-year-olds to absorb: 4.4 million this year. The entire active duty military is only 1.4 million. So we pick a subset - Milbank suggests a million. Still too many to absorb in a military that size, because remember, that's a million each year. So they do something else - AmeriCorps, Peace Corps, some other sort of "service" that isn't military. Now all of a sudden we aren't really talking about a draft and we certainly aren't really talking about the military. So what are we talking about?

Government employment for young people. And what exactly is this supposed to teach them? It certainly won't be selfless service to one's country, as a trip to any place of government employment will reveal - DMV, anyone? Post Office? How did the Job Corps do for promoting patriotism?

If we do pursue a military draft it won't be for these specious reasons, it will be because the nation's need exceeds the number of volunteers.

40 posted on 12/31/2014 6:16:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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