Shock in Southern Tier of New York as Hopes of Gambling and Fracking Both Die

NY Times ^ | December 18, 2014 | Jesse McKinley

[C19fan]

To get a sense of the deep disappointment felt by many here at the twin killings of two potentially lucrative dreams, hydraulic fracturing and a new luxury casino, one needed to look no further than the front-page headline of Thursday’s edition of The Press & Sun-Bulletin.

It was two letters, in red type: “NO!”

That cry could seemingly be heard all along New York State’s Southern Tier, which borders Pennsylvania and has long been one of the state’s most stubborn economic laggards. In recent years, both hydraulic fracturing — known as fracking — and casinos had been posited as potential economic saviors here, where residents and leaders have watched with envy as neighboring Pennsylvanians dived into both industries.

[C19fan]

The only way the area outside the NYC metro area will ever recover from the shocks of the 1970s is to secede. NYC is too politically dominant and will not reform the economy to make Upstate NY an attractive place for business.

[Maelstorm]

Some day NY City will go Detroit and things will change.

[thackney]

NY farmers lament lost opportunity for gas riches
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2014/12/21/ny-farmers-lament-lost-opportunity-for-gas-riches/
December 21, 2014

While environmental groups are doing a victory dance over New York’s decision to ban fracking, farmers such as apple grower David Johnson are grieving for dashed hopes and dreams.

“I’m devastated,” Johnson said after Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s health and environmental commissioners announced Wednesday that they were recommending a fracking ban. “I have concerns about how to continue this farm that’s been in the family for 150 years.”

Energy companies denied the chance to drill in New York can simply raise their rigs in other states. That’s what they’ve done since the Marcellus Shale gas drilling boom began in 2008 and New York launched an environmental review that effectively put a moratorium in place. But landowners in the state’s Southern Tier region who had hoped to reap royalties from gas production don’t have that option.

[b4its2late]

Agreed. We need NYC up through the 87 corridor to be its’ own state and the rest of the state on its’ own.

[headstamp 2]

The Southern Tier is an economic basket case.

All the manufacturing lost there has killed that area.

Cueball couldn’t care less about it. Too many Republicans live there.

[PGR88]

New York State is appalachia with New York City attached.

New York City is kept afloat due to the earnings and taxes of a few crony-capitalist Wall Street banks, dealing in debt and Federal Reserve printed money.

[hoosierham]

Can’t all the landowners sue the state of New York for uncompensated taking of property rights?

[heshtesh]

I live just south of Olean NY., a friend of mine just developed a drilling site with 15 pads, the property is on the PA/NY State line. His monthly checks were over 400,000.00 until the prices dropped, haven’t heard him piss or moan about the price drop yet.

[pfony1]

I believe that “Secession” of upstate New York from New York City would greatly benefit the folks who live outside the five boroughs.

But Imperial City needs an “empire” to exploit, doesn’t it?

[moovova]

“...the deep disappointment felt by many here at the twin killings...”

Pretty tasteless way to phrase that RE recent events.

But hey, it’s the NYT.

[Fresh Wind]

Cede New Yawk City and Philthadelphia (aka West Camden) to the PRNJ. All three states will benefit.

[Iron Munro]

The entire upstate area is politically overpowered by the 8 1/2 million libtards, Gibs-me-dats and illegals in Sanctuary City run by Che Guevera admirer and avowed communist, Mayor Werner Wilhelm.

[2banana]

And with truly insane property taxes - talking $20,000 on a nothing special house on an acre in the middle of nowhere - upstate NY will never recover

[who knows what evil?]

The Southern Tier’s economic outlook has been ‘bleak’ for decades.

[RayChuang88]

Governor Andrew Cuomo--by banning fracking in the very rich Marcellus Shale in New York state--is about to set up the state for a VERY ugly financial bankruptcy as upper New York state falls into financial ruin and the business activity of the New York City metro area can no longer cover the economic depression of upper New York state.

[onona]

Cede New Yawk City and Philthadelphia (aka West Camden) to the PRNJ. All three states will benefit.

I like that idea; it's a good one.

[PGR88]

I live just south of Olean NY., a friend of mine just developed a drilling site with 15 pads, the property is on the PA/NY State line. His monthly checks were over 400,000.00 until the prices dropped, haven’t heard him piss or moan about the price drop yet.

Congrats to him! You don't see that kind of money in Cattaraugus County very often. I'm not a gas expert, so I don't know how many wells are still drilled traditionally in the Southern Tier, or where our masters in Albany exactly draw the line on "fracking" which is really just pumping pressured water down a hole.

[drjimmy]

Pretty tasteless way to phrase that RE recent events.

This story was published two days before the events of which you speak.

[Revelation 911]

examples please

[Renkluaf]

Gov. Cuomo shout’s out a big F___ Y__ to the citizenry of the region.