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I got some big ol' fluffy chunks of agw falling right now. Looks like the haughty john f'n kohn-heinz-kerry will get another go at the round table in gay Paris yet again. I propose we just hand out the following to the delegates:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet’

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

That should all be easy enough to do.

1 posted on 12/15/2014 6:05:48 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Correct is whatever they determine it to be minute to minute. The details of reality are not important, only their need to control. They must have every jot and tittle of moral authority removed from their patina revealing the harsh ugliness of their enterprise.


2 posted on 12/15/2014 6:15:09 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: rktman

The man with gun to your head doesn’t have to define anything.


4 posted on 12/15/2014 6:20:23 AM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: rktman
Very good points. I'd add:

8. Describe, in detail, the technologies available to mankind to control 1-6.

9. Describe, in detail, the interactions of all the atmospheric, terrestrial, geologic, and biological systems that contribute to 1-6. Include your plan for getting through the transient period from today to your ideal 1-6.

10. Describe, in detail, contingency plans, what could go wrong and how to mitigate them if we were so foolish as to try.

11. Justify how this attempt to "manage" nature will be different than any of mankind's other initial attempts to "manage" nature - which haven't worked out so well.

12. List the species of flora and fauna that will be stressed/lost by transitioning to the idea 1-6.

13. Explain how holding climate in an artificial stasis would be a good thing when nature seems to abhor stagnation.

5 posted on 12/15/2014 6:21:39 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Any Climate Treaty will be reinterpreted, twisted, manipulated and expanded just like the federal government under Obama has manipulated and expanded the Patriot Act and just like the Supreme Court has manipulated the US Constitution.


7 posted on 12/15/2014 6:54:08 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: rktman

I would add one more:

Will ALL countries be held to the same standard/restrictions?

Globull is a crock of crap!


8 posted on 12/15/2014 7:12:20 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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You have done what the MSM never do with regard to “climate change”: ask just how we determine what those optimal readings are for such things as sea ice coverage, average temperature, etc. The topic is loaded with unexamined and unchallenged assumptions. It is the champions of “climate change” who act is if they can PREVENT the climate from changing, as if they can stop it at some ideal point the way you would adjust the thermostat in your house.


10 posted on 12/15/2014 7:43:24 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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