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To: DoughtyOne
No worries, but thank you for your courtesy! It's people like yourself who help make FR the awesome place it is!

It seems that a lot of people are cherry-picking the autopsy for what they want. True that he succumbed to cardiac arrest but the coroner's report cited the asphyxia as the actual COD.

If a person bleeds out then they will succumb to cardiac arrest but their COD will be exsanguination. Or if they get shot they may bleed out and succumb to cardiac arrest but the COD will be getting shot.

From one of the analyses of the coroner's report:

...the coroner's report said Garner died of “compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest, and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.” It also ruled his death a homicide.

43 posted on 12/12/2014 3:35:56 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: MeganC

MeganC, I don’t see that as a homicide. I think that’s gaming the situation. I don’t particularly care if it’s Baden or not. I generally like the guy, but I think he’s going a bit overboard here.

Do you know that hold around the neck lasted for twenty seconds? Twenty seconds, and yet that was supposed to have killed the guy. No. I’m sorry but you can’t kill someone with depriving them of air for twenty seconds.

Next, if you can’t breathe, you can’t talk. It takes the expulsion of air going past the wind-pipe to talk. And this guy was talking. Someone mentioned he said he couldn’t breathe 11 times. Even if it was few less times, that’s a lot of talking. Can’t breathe? Air was going in and out. I call that breathing.

How one autopsy finds no damage to the wind-pipe or arteries and the other one does..., rather strange IMO.

The amount of time these guys took to take him down and get off of him seemed to be less than a minute. It takes loss of air for over five minutes to cause brain damage. I’ve held my breath without fainting for 4 minutes and fifteen seconds.

This guy had health issues. He died of a heart attack. I think it was more skirmish related than actual damage related. Another-words, it’s traumatizing to go through an altercation like that. I think that is what did him in. His health issues coupled with the skirmish, did him in. That’s of course a layman’s opinion, but it seems to me there’s some serious cherry picking on both sides here.

Thank you for your response. I appreciated the nice things you said too. Take care.

Again, not trying to be overly hostile here. Just my thoughts on it...


44 posted on 12/12/2014 5:03:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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