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To: SJackson
3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

Charges mean nothing...It's the convictions that count...

Pantaleo’s attorney and police union officials argued that Garner’s poor health was the main cause of his death.

Garner was alive believe he was put into a potential deadly choke hold...Healthy people have been choked to death by police...

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

It was reported that Garner was not breathing while on the sidewalk...Hard to have a cardiac arrest after you are dead...And yet, the cops never instituted life saving techniques after they knew Garner wasn't breathing...

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them.

Prohibited means illegal...And illegal maneuver by the cops...

and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused.”

But it was illegal...

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a “substantial risk” that Garner would have died due to the take down.

I don't buy it...That would not have swayed me...as long as there was a serious potential risk that would be my criteria...

11. Less than a month after Garner’s death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice’s waistband outside a New York hotel.

Completely irrelevant to the case...

So what if the choke hold wouldn't have brought him down??? Next on the list is a shot to the head???

If I sucker punch a guy in the head who has brain damage that I don't know about, and he dies, I'll be in the gray bar motel...

Had the officer not used an illegal choke hold that cut off Garner's already short suppy of oxygen, the actions of the cop would have been fine...

14 posted on 12/05/2014 5:58:11 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: Iscool

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them.

Prohibited means illegal...And illegal maneuver by the cops...

and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused.”

But it was illegal...

...

Chokeholds are banned by the police department, they are not illegal. There is no New York statute making them illegal when a police officer is authorized to use force, such as when a person resists arrest.

Regardless, it wasn’t a chokehold as I explain in #23, and as seen in the video if one looks carefully.


27 posted on 12/05/2014 6:32:36 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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