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Boehner Suggests He Won’t Cave to Conservatives on ‘Cromnibus’ (Video)
blogs.rollcall.com ^ | 12/4/14 | Matt Fuller

Posted on 12/05/2014 5:04:13 AM PST by cotton1706

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To: Pietro

Its working for the UKIP party. If we create a 3rd party, it will quickly become the 2nd party. Think Reagan landslide. A new conservative party would attract some democrats and libertarians as well. The RINOS would have to join as a minority or move to the dem party where they belong.

Right now the republican party still has some conservative support because its the only game in town. They count on a lot of people holding their nose and voting every time while ignoring the fact that millions stay home and don’t vote as a protest. A new party would bring these angry protest non voters out of the shadows. Mark Levin already stated that he would go third party if the RINOs renege.


21 posted on 12/05/2014 5:59:16 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: okie01

Amen.


22 posted on 12/05/2014 6:31:18 AM PST by Liz
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To: bigtoona
attract some democrats and libertarians as well

Exactly.

Furthermore, I believe we can appeal to those blacks and Hispanics that haven't been completely emasculated by the nanny state.

At some point blacks have got to wake up to the fact that they've been played and we should point out to the Hispanics that what blacks are going thru now is exactly what's waiting for them.

23 posted on 12/05/2014 6:40:27 AM PST by Pietro
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To: bert
If there is adequate GOPc raw political power expressed in votes, conservative goals will prevail

Huh? Please look at reality. Boehner is gleefully wanting to grant 100% amnesty to what will be 40M illegal third worlders.

Boehner knows that the RATS will have ultimate power -- he is happy with that because Conservatives will be destroyed.

The ONLY way Conservatives will win is to leave the GOP in-mass and form a new party.

The GOP can NEVER be reformed.

24 posted on 12/05/2014 8:47:22 AM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: cotton1706

Anything to keep the Good Old Boy Club alive.


25 posted on 12/05/2014 8:48:48 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: cotton1706

Bonor is a worthless liberal Democrat.


26 posted on 12/05/2014 8:58:06 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Pietro

“Its time we SERIOUSLY begin talking about a Third Party!”

Talk...that’s all we do, and all that will happen.

We have the LOTE folks telling us Cruz and/or Romney is better than Hillary.

We have folks railing for a third party.

We have the doom and gloomers - especially me - who say nothing will work and this nation is toast.

And we have our pols who lie to us, placate us, then continue to do whatever the heck they want.

That is not directed at you personally.


27 posted on 12/05/2014 9:18:02 AM PST by Obstinate (Pack the Constitution & build Mayflower II; this place is toast. Going Galt? Going Constitutional.)
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To: sand88

The conservatives prevailed on numerous issues and will continue to do so. .... in spiet of the Speaker

It was Dingy Harry not the Speaker that thwarted conservative bills


28 posted on 12/05/2014 9:53:14 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Obstinate
I agree w/ you completely.

And I have never supported the idea of a third party (having been suckered by Perot).

But enough is enough. We stand on the banks of the Rubicon my FRiend and if the Rovians collapse for obaba, I'm out, I'm done.

Burn that house down!

29 posted on 12/05/2014 10:01:46 AM PST by Pietro
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To: bert
The conservatives prevailed on numerous issues and will continue to do so. .... in spiet of the Speaker

LOL, are you serious? maybe prevailed in symbolic ways.

On what real issues have Conservatives prevailed?

Boehner and McConnell are willfully taking steps to increase the Power of the State over individuals.

With Boehner's support for 100% Amnesty, the illegals will come in great numbers over the next few years -- The Rats will flip a few more states and have complete Electoral lock on the Presidency.

One has to be delusional to think Conservatives are winning.

The evil GOPe has checkmated Conservatism.

30 posted on 12/05/2014 10:20:28 AM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Pietro

It’s time we start thinking about a 2nd party to replace the Republican Party. Let the Republicans devolve into 3rd party status or roll itself into the Democrat party, they seem hell bent on supporting democrat policies anyway.

As for another poster I noticed the Republican apologist crowd has been awfully quite around here lately. But I am sure they would say just as their mascot would colonel Klink “I can assure you the Republicans will stop obama in his tracks come January when they take control of the Congress, right Sargent Schultz!”


31 posted on 12/05/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Pietro; sarge83

Rubicon is right.

Third - or second - party is something I’ve wanted for many years.

One thing I think that would be absolutely fascinating is how many pols would quit their “go along to get along” mantra and show their true freedom loving colors.

Then again I might be disappointed.


32 posted on 12/05/2014 10:54:17 AM PST by Obstinate (Pack the Constitution & build Mayflower II; this place is toast. Going Galt? Going Constitutional.)
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To: sand88

You are just wrong

The prevailed by repealing amnesty 31 times.

They prevailed in cutting off debt increase.

I think there were 351 bills that are in the senate in box.

The senate prevented what you deny


33 posted on 12/05/2014 11:05:32 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
The prevailed by repealing amnesty 31 times.

LOL, you can't be serious. LOL

All those bills were passed with the knowledge they would go nowhere.

Now, imagine Cruz as President. Do you honestly believe that Boehner would allow ANY bill that repealed amnesty?? Boehner is for full amnesty.

Boehner and McConnel HATE the Tea Party and Conservatives with a white hot passion.

Your apparent love of all things GOP is revolting.

The very survival of our Republic depends on the political destruction of the GOP.

As a reminder, do you remember the 6 years under Bush when we had the Congress and Presidency -- please tell me how Liberty flourished and government shrank.

GOPe apologists make me sick.

34 posted on 12/06/2014 8:30:28 AM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88

Balderdash...... you are allowing your bias to pull the wool over your eyes.

You are so wrapped up in the self esteem of you own opinions you can’t determine reality.


35 posted on 12/06/2014 8:39:54 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: sand88

One more thing......

You are very blind to reality. I am firmly GOPc......... conservative Republican. I am not out at the extreme edge conservatism and in danger of falling off like you are


36 posted on 12/06/2014 8:43:07 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
You are so wrapped up in the self esteem of you own opinions you can’t determine reality.

LOL. self-esteem? This is something one would expect for a GOPe lover or a spy from the DUmp. Liberals can't help but get personal.

Thanks for the inane comments lol...

37 posted on 12/06/2014 1:31:19 PM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Obstinate

I would not be surprised to see a breakaway in the Congress then the Senate.

And the R’s will say,
“then Conservatives will be the minority party again.”

BUT THEY ALREADY ARE!

May the people who believe in American exceptional-ism and the constitution as the law of the land rise up, finance, and build it.

It will be a matter of timing.
Right now we call and rattle ears, same again when the new congress stars in January.

I hope for a pleasant American Spring.


38 posted on 12/06/2014 1:54:58 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: bert

That’s why we bitch now and really bitch later when the new congress is in and they shaft us again.


39 posted on 12/06/2014 1:57:30 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: right way right

“I would not be surprised to see a breakaway in the Congress then the Senate.”

That would be grand.

I’m watching, waiting and hoping.


40 posted on 12/06/2014 2:36:07 PM PST by Obstinate (Pack the Constitution & build Mayflower II; this place is toast. Going Galt? Going Constitutional.)
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