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The New American Civil War
Uncommon Sense ^ | 21-2-14 | Chris Shugart

Posted on 12/03/2014 7:01:17 PM PST by The_Harlequin

civil war

If our country were a marriage, there’d be a lot of people asking for a divorce right now. And we know how messy those can be. When irreconcilable differences go unresolved between spouses, one or both parties may seek to dissolve the marriage. On a national level, history has shown us that unresolved differences can lead to war. Which is a little bit like divorce.

In either case, this doesn’t necessarily imply a military conflict. There can be such a thing as a non-shooting “cold war” just as once existed between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. To be sure, there’s been no formal declaration of war between any political parties in this country. But when Congress passed the now infamous health care reform bill in 2010, it confirmed what I had suspected for some time: We were in a war of opposing ideologies and principles—two political sides with fundamentally different visions of America. Only the naive or those in denial can consider this an overstatement.

I'm not alone in my view. Two days after that Sunday of Infamy, author and radio host Dennis Prager stated, "I write the words 'civil war' with an ache in my heart. But we are in one." About a week later, economist and political commentator Walter Williams implied the same when he wrote, "I believe we are nearing a point where there are enough irreconcilable differences between those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone that separation is the only peaceable alternative." Conservative author David Horowitz was way ahead of the curve when he said in 1996, "The Left is permanently at war with America."

It’s been said that Democrats and Republicans basically want the same things, but have different ways of going about attaining them. While this may have once been true, it’s no longer the case. In President Obama’s own words, he seeks to fundamentally change America. To some, that’s considered progress. To others it’s an effort to nullify basic American values.

While it may be of some minor consolation that our conflict remains a cold war, it doesn’t make the division any easier to negotiate. Nevertheless, it’s the state of affairs in which we now find ourselves. We face a new reality that’s been years in the making: Americans divided by fundamental difference in values, goals, and vision. On one side you have those who favor a large proactive government that takes care of its citizens (and in some cases non-citizens). On the other side you have those who believe that Americans should manage their own affairs with a minimum of government interference.

Our deep divide is more than a difference in ideology. It’s also a difference of perception. It may indeed be true that there are two different Americas, as Democrat presidential candidate John Edwards once claimed. If nothing else, we don’t see the same America. It’s as if we’re all looking at the same piece of furniture, but while some see a table, others see a chair. Such a severe disparity in perception may never be reconciled.

The traditional American value system and the leftist value system are incompatible. How we got to this impasse is no longer relevant. Continuing discussions and rhetoric is only so much whistling in the dark. Understanding this new reality and deciding where we go from here must be our new focus. How we choose to address this conflict should be our paramount consideration. Ignoring reality in order to avoid ugly confrontations will only postpone the ugliness. Whatever the answer, whatever the outcome, we must assess our current situation in the context of this New American Civil War in which we are now faced.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: american; civil; civilwar; uniparty; war
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1 posted on 12/03/2014 7:01:17 PM PST by The_Harlequin
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To: The_Harlequin

“The Left is permanently at war with America.”

For at least 100 years.


2 posted on 12/03/2014 7:03:56 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

at least since the civil war.

britain had for a long time been happy trying to foment war against and within the usa after the revolution.


3 posted on 12/03/2014 7:18:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: The_Harlequin

I really think this is just a continuation of that big disagreement in 1861.
I also do not think it will ever be resolved, especially now that the Federals have usurped and consolidated so much power in one dysfunctional city on the Potomac.
I fully expect to see three to five nations emerge from the disUnited States within the next hundred years.
With at least one of them a dictatorship of the first order. Very much like the current one in Venezuela.


4 posted on 12/03/2014 7:26:53 PM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How’d you know that???


5 posted on 12/03/2014 7:28:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: The_Harlequin
It’s been said that Democrats and Republicans basically want the same things, but have different ways of going about attaining them. While this may have once been true, it’s no longer the case .... OH REALLY ???
6 posted on 12/03/2014 7:36:39 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: The_Harlequin
The traditional American value system and the leftist value system are incompatible.

The truth no one wants to face and yet is staring at us in the face, is that the "Left" and the "Right" in America can no longer peacefully co-exist.

The "Progressive" (Marxist/Socialist) ideology is at war with Conservative/Regular American heritage and principles and they will never leave us alone until we are subjugated or exterminated.

History already teaches us this lesson. Why we ignore it is beyond me.

A fatal case of Normalcy Bias I guess.

7 posted on 12/03/2014 7:40:16 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: The_Harlequin

Ignoring reality in order to avoid ugly confrontations will only postpone the ugliness.

Postponing the confrontations allows the weaker side to get stronger.
Confronting a 3 month old bear isn't the same as confronting a 3 year old bear. -tom

8 posted on 12/03/2014 7:45:45 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

The bear is over 100, and is bigger than the frontiersman. Fortunately the frontiersman is still also capable of being the predator and will only tolerate being preyed upon for so long.


9 posted on 12/03/2014 8:00:30 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: INVAR
The "Progressive" (Marxist/Socialist) ideology is at war with Conservative/Regular American heritage and principles and they will never leave us alone until we are subjugated or exterminated.

Boehner and his friends are not listening to the warnings, and the subjugation is near. Unless we have a civil war in the open, screw this cold civil war. Only way we survive.

10 posted on 12/03/2014 8:02:47 PM PST by roadcat
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To: The_Harlequin

Bttt.


11 posted on 12/03/2014 8:11:02 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: The_Harlequin

We’ve used the soap box and the ballot box. It remains to be seen if the pubbies will listen to us. If/when they don’t there is only one box left.


12 posted on 12/03/2014 8:16:43 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Java4Jay
DIFF
13 posted on 12/03/2014 8:20:09 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: The_Harlequin
There can be such a thing as a non-shooting “cold war” just as once existed between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. To be sure,...

People by the hundreds died during the "cold war". It might not have been a formally declared shooting war but dead is still dead.

Regards,
GtG

14 posted on 12/03/2014 8:33:04 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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>> Our deep divide is more than a difference in ideology. It’s also a difference of perception.

Without the influental Marxists, normalcy would fall back into place.


15 posted on 12/03/2014 8:36:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How true! Britain tried to form an alliance between Canada, Mexico and Texas against the USA over the Oregon Territories question.
It drove Texas to become a state, and showed the USA that the back door was open to invasion from Mexico by GB and Canada and this action by GB brought on the Mexican War.

You would be surprised about what you DON’T learn in history class in high school.


16 posted on 12/03/2014 8:44:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I survived I-35W through Fort Worth in Rush hour!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And Mexico’s been asked a number of times to join enemies of America. I recall Hitler actually trying some overture to get them to attack our southern border in WWII.


17 posted on 12/03/2014 10:55:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: roadcat

Yes you are right. Boehnor and his GOP progressive allies in Congress and in the Senate are going to push us into a hot CWII. This country is a powder keg. We are one Bundy Ranch away from the kickoff.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 7:33:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: roadcat
In any discussion about Civil War II the hand wringers (usually front Yankeeland ) tell us the US Army is too strong and would put down any state trying to secede. Well let me tell you , the US standing Army is effective, but tiny. Texas could get a million man volunteer Army overnight...

At first you don't secede, try, try again.

19 posted on 12/04/2014 7:47:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“At first you don’t secede, try, try again.”

Nice! I highly doubt many fat-assed Yankee liberals would fight like they did last time.


20 posted on 12/04/2014 8:21:35 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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