And OBAMA has already blasted them for it
Where’s Al and Jesse and Eric?
video doesn’t work.
A man dies because of Bloomberg’s hatred of tobacco.
Bloomberg gestapoized the police force against tobacco, rather than having the police look for murderers, rapists, and drug pushers.
In this case I do think it was a wrongful death but I blame the individual cops a lot less than the city and federal government that made selling individual cigarettes illegal.
it worked on the third try. Don’t quite know what to think of it. Looked like a standard sleeper hold.
However, the man was quite large and probably attendant medical issues which might make the use of a sleeper hold quite deadly.
He was resisting arrest. And the so-called “choke hold” may not have been a choke hold (which had been ruled illegal), but rather a “seatbelt maneuver”.
“”A lot will be determined by the DA (Daniel Donovan),” Mullins [president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association] said. “I don’t see it as a chokehold, it appears he was using a seat-belt maneuver. Garner refused to cooperate and resisted arrest.”
The chokehold is prohibited by the NYPD. The police definition of a chokehold involves a baton placed against the arteries of the neck where pressure is applied to stop blood flow to the head, which causes someone to pass out, Mullins said.”
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/pantaleo_officer_at_center_of.html
Brown/Wilson was NOT brutality.
An officer was attacked, the attacker attempted to take the officer’s gun, the attacker refused commands to stop, the attacker died. Period. End of story.
A grand jury announced its decision Wednesday to not indict Daniel Pantaleo...
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Just another reason for 0 and his sheriff to use for racial injustice.
Very peculiar outcome to this case.
This surprises me.
What evidence is missing? Was the fact Garner died of heart attack on the way to the hospital the key factor? How so?
I am smelling a big fat rat. This case was absolutely appalling, but I guess because it happened in the stomping grounds of Obama’s new Attorney General pick, and that new mayor, no no no, the selective outrage machine cannot possibly turn it’s ire here. Nope, instead they will try to manufacture a movement around a bully in an area that lacks political heavyweights of the liberal persuasion that might become embarrassed.
I’d like to see the full non spliced video of the incident.
I say that because what we saw did not show enough footage to verify if the choke hold lasted for more than a few seconds, or if the police stayed on top of him for a length of time that prevented him from breathing for a long period of time.
Whether right or wrong, once the officers determine they are going to take you in, you have to submit.
This big guy refused to go peacefully. The officers tried to get cuffs on him. He refused to allow them to touch him. They took him down.
Am I glad they guy is dead? Absolutely not. Did he think that was going to end well? Even if he didn’t die, is being taken down on the ground like that preferable to submitting to being hand-cuffed and going peacefully?
The choke hold was improper. Was that the cause of death? It didn’t appear to be a viciously applied choke hold. Once the guy was down it appeared the officer released that hold. He may have done damage to the wind pipe. The autopsy should have revealed that.
If he did injure the person that way, the person did die from that, and it is against policy, he should have been prosecuted.
Minutes after Bodden addressed the media, PBA President Pat Lynch showed up to defend the NYPD. “You did not hear the private medical examiner say that they saw signs of asphyxiation. What they saw is compression to the neck, which is consistent with the medical treatment that Mr. Garner would have received by EMS, would have received in the emergency room at the hospital.”
Lynch said that the police followed proper protocol when trying to detain Garner.
“It’s a seat belt maneuver. It’s a take-down maneuver where a shorter police officer is trying to take down a taller man to the ground,” Lynch said. “You reach up, one arm is under the armpit, the other is around the shoulder, a struggle ensues while we are bringing him down to the ground, not a chokehold and it’s not consistent with a chokehold.”
Hopefully, the protesters and looters will now leave Missouri for New York.
I have the solution for the “blacks vs law enforcement problem”.
Police should be required to carry 2 kinds of weapons.
For whites that commit violent crimes, cops will be allowed to carry regular guns with real bullets, and can use them as warranted.
For blacks, cops will be required to use guns shoot blanks. Or perhaps, paint guns. So, when a cop shoots a black criminal, it will up up to the criminal to notice that he was shot at, and then give himself up. It will be like the honor system that we as kids used, where if we shot somebody playing cops and robbers, we’d say “bang, bang, you’re dead”, and the kid that was “shot” would fall to the floor, pretending to have been shot.
A man is dead and he shouldn't be. I think that rises above the level of "police brutality".
What we have here is a failure to communicate. Garner did not deserve to die but all actions leading up to what happened have consequences. Why can’t we all just get along? I know that I would not like physical contact efforts to subdue me and would avoid such as long my authoritative trust meter was OK. Maybe teach this with some true Dad authority present and get out of postulating and stirring by borocko etal.
Burning and rioting are not justified, but i actually thought a couple of indictments were in order here. I am rather surprised that no cops are to be tried as committing unnecessary acts of brutality. They ganged up and took him down like a pack of wolves attacking a sick aged bear.
A grand jury announced its decision Wednesday to not indict Daniel Pantaleo, an NYPD officer who held an African-American man in an apparent chokehold during an arrest last July.
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I notice that the media is now using words like apparent and alleged now, but they weren’t before.