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White House: Obama will shut down the government with a veto if the GOP tries to stop amnesty
Hotair ^ | 12/01/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 12/01/2014 6:59:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Via the Daily Caller, there’s a caveat here but I’m not sure why. First Jon Karl asks whether Obama would veto a single bill that funds the entire government for 12 months but specifically blocks him from carrying out executive amnesty. Yup, sure would, says Josh Earnest. Okay, says Karl, but what if Republicans pass a bill that funds the entire government for 12 months except for Homeland Security, the agency tasked with implementing amnesty, which would be funded on a short-term basis only until O rescinds his executive order? Earnest is noncommittal about that one. That idea, the so-called “CROmnibus,” is indeed being kicked around by GOP leaders. Which makes sense: Republicans want to play hardball with amnesty funding but without defunding the entire government, lest they be blamed for a new shutdown. The obvious solution is to fund most of it and instead play hardball with just DHS, on the assumption that most of the public won’t care about that. Perfectly logical for the GOP to consider that approach.

Is it logical for Obama to consider it, though? His goal is to pressure the GOP into funding his amnesty; his leverage is public perceptions that if government can’t function because it’s not getting the money it needs, it must be the damned Republicans’ fault. If he agrees to the CROmnibus plan, which would require him to sign a bill funding all of the government except DHS for 12 months, he reduces his leverage. Logically, it seems, if he’s willing to veto a single omnibus funding bill on grounds that it hurts his amnesty, he should be willing to veto two separate bills (one short-term bill for DHS and a longer-term bill for everything else) that seek to achieve the same purpose.

If Earnest is hedging here, and he is, it must be that even Democrats are nervous about the politics of this. Yes, granted, without knowing the details, many more people are reflexively inclined to blame Republicans for any government shutdown than they are to blame Obama. But O refusing to sign a bill that funded most of the government, no strings attached, because of a separate fight over immigration could be a hard sell for lefties. And not just in the short term: If, for once, it’s the left that suffers a backlash from a shutdown, it might make Democrats skittish about playing hardball again over funding in the future. That’s one of the many costs imposed by Obama’s amnesty power grab — not only does it set an alarming new precedent for executive power, but it puts both parties in seldom traveled political territory. Immigration politics are unpredictable even in normal times. What happens when you toss a crisis over separation of powers into the mix?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; obama; shutdown; veto
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1 posted on 12/01/2014 6:59:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 12/01/2014 7:01:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bring it. Popcorn supply ready!


3 posted on 12/01/2014 7:01:29 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

So, who will the voting public blame this time?


4 posted on 12/01/2014 7:03:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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I'd be perfectly fine with DHS never receiving another penny, and you can add in the IRS, too. Neither agency will be missed by Americans, so political problems there for the GOP.
5 posted on 12/01/2014 7:04:30 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: SeekAndFind

since the Republicans are unwilling to shut down the government...

I guess Obama can demand ANYTHING!

I can see it now... I will veto any legislation and thus shut down the government that doesn’t have a provision that every registered Republican be horse whipped!

Republicans in congress... ok... since we are too scared to shut down the government even though elections are two years away.. I guess we’ll have to go along with this!


6 posted on 12/01/2014 7:04:38 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To my way of thinking, that is a win-win situation..


7 posted on 12/01/2014 7:05:55 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: SeekAndFind

Hilarious, huh?

They win the election but he kicks them around.

Puh-Thetic.


8 posted on 12/01/2014 7:06:23 PM PST by Regulator
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The last shutdown was devastating to the republicans..cost them a lot of seats..wait a minute...


9 posted on 12/01/2014 7:06:29 PM PST by ground_fog
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re going to see a very interesting practical lab unfold:

A narcissist who over the course of his WHOLE LIFE has been told he’s the Guiding Star of the world, but now faces utter failure and the word, “no” on something very important.

I think the results will be deeply unpretty.


10 posted on 12/01/2014 7:06:49 PM PST by gaijin
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Obama demands to stay in office indefinitely or he’ll shut down the government, GOP caves. (News from late 2016)


11 posted on 12/01/2014 7:06:54 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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If they need a CR, pass one for two month period. Then pass the new budget as regular order. If Obama Veto’s it, pass the budget one part at a time. the last part Homeland Security minus a budget for implementation of executive order. Make Obama veto ALL the parts of the budget.

He will be shown as the one standing in the way of ‘progress’.

Damn, do I have to do all their thinking for them. Idiot Republicans.


12 posted on 12/01/2014 7:07:10 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shut them down. Send them home.


13 posted on 12/01/2014 7:07:26 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
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Action Plan for your "National Day of Reckoning" protest against Obama's Illegal Amnesty - (Internet Link)

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14 posted on 12/01/2014 7:07:34 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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Or is it “Cursive. Didn’t read.”


15 posted on 12/01/2014 7:08:00 PM PST by omega4412
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Obama’s executive amnesty to cost taxpayers $2 trillion

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/obamas-executive-amnesty-cost-taxpayers-2-trillion

Congressional Analysis: Congress Can De-fund Obama’s Executive Amnesty

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/congressional-analysis-congress-can-de-fund-obamas-executive-amnesty

The public will blame who the media tells them to blame.


16 posted on 12/01/2014 7:12:18 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who’s talking about shutdown?


17 posted on 12/01/2014 7:12:45 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: CPT Clay

Just the mediacrats.


18 posted on 12/01/2014 7:14:51 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like a good arrangement to me.


19 posted on 12/01/2014 7:17:19 PM PST by PGR88
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Good. Shut the F’ing government down for six months, save a bundle.


20 posted on 12/01/2014 7:21:17 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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