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In Texas V. California, Results, Not Intentions, Matter Most
IBD ^ | 11/29/2014 | CHUCK DEVORE

Posted on 11/29/2014 6:53:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

When it comes to poverty, the two biggest states, California and Texas, offer a vivid contrast: Results matter more than well-meaning intentions, and work beats welfare.

Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation at 23.4%, according to a new Census Bureau report that takes into account the variable cost of housing from state to state as well as noncash benefits such as housing vouchers and food stamps. (The official poverty measure assumes the same costs throughout America.)

This broad poverty measure shows that Texas' poverty rate dropped to 15.9%, the national average. Along with the nation's highest poverty rate, California, with one-eighth of America's population, has one-third of the nation's welfare recipients.

Its state and local taxes are a whopping 52% higher as a share of income than Texas'. In fact, California could completely eliminate its income tax, the nation's highest, and it would still pull more money from its residents than does Texas.

The states where 1-in-5 Americans call home are both minority majority states. Hispanics make up 38% of the population in both, while 12% of Texans are black vs. 7% in California.

In spite of California's generous welfare programs designed to lift people out of material poverty and its heavy progressive tax burden intended to "spread the wealth around," the Golden State has 47% more people living in poverty on a per-capita basis than does Texas.

Breaking down the numbers by the three largest demographic groups, an average of 9.7% of white, non-Hispanics in Texas were in poverty from 2009 to 2012 vs. 14.8% in California.

Among blacks in Texas, 19.9% were in poverty, tied with North Carolina for the lowest rate among the 12 most populous states vs. 30.1% in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; economy; poverty; texas
And lookie here... even in Education, TX is winning.

According to the U.S. Education Department, Texas tied with Nebraska, Vermont and Wisconsin for the nation's second highest high school graduation rate at 88%. Iowa was first. California came in 30th, with a high school graduation rate of 78%, just behind West Virginia.

And here's the other measure.... HISPANICS.

For Hispanics of Mexican national origin, the poverty rate was 22.6% in Texas vs. 34% in California.

1 posted on 11/29/2014 6:53:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Texas is still ascendant.

California is deeply mired and paralyzed in the quicksand of decadence.

If the American people can muster the will and wisdom to extricate themselves from the decadence that California and the Left embody, there can be a second American Century, and America's children have a brilliant and beautiful future.

If they cannot, Detroit is the future of America--from sea to sea.

2 posted on 11/29/2014 6:59:42 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Depends on the definition of “winning.” California is a cesspool of dependency, importation of illegal aliens, every leftist kook idea that comes up in a drug induced haze, and is reliably Democrat. Sounds like a winner to the big government Marxists running the country.
3 posted on 11/29/2014 7:26:01 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Savage Beast
If they cannot, Detroit is the future of America--from sea to shining gloomy sea.
4 posted on 11/29/2014 7:30:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The way I see it, poverty is self inflicted. I’ve been down and out. Nothing. Got a job and worked my way out of it...


5 posted on 11/29/2014 8:09:43 AM PST by Antoninus II
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To: Antoninus II

But then again, I’m 4th generation Texan. We are a hardy breed...


6 posted on 11/29/2014 8:11:35 AM PST by Antoninus II
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To: Antoninus II

I would like to see a national debate, political campaigns, etc. discuss the War on Poverty.

President Johnson famously declared war on poverty. And out of declaration of war on poverty came many of the public assistance programs in existence today.

I would like to see a discussion about whether we achieved the goals of the war on poverty. Here it is, 50 years later, and huge numbers are grappling with poverty. Anecdotal evidence is that poverty is handed down from generation to generation, that many have not escaped a family history of poverty.

We’ve had the same ongoing problems for decades, when we talk about welfare dependency, dropout rates from high school, unemployment, babies born out of wedlock, gang violence, drug use, etc. These problems just never seem to get resolved.

Did the war on poverty accomplish anything? And who is responsible, since Democrats initiated all of the anti-poverty programs out there???


7 posted on 11/29/2014 8:18:54 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: SeekAndFind

California voter base in action as Walter calls them dumb asses.


8 posted on 11/29/2014 8:51:45 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind
Its state and local taxes are a whopping 52% higher as a share of income than Texas'. In fact, California could completely eliminate its income tax, the nation's highest, and it would still pull more money from its residents than does Texas.

It's more than that. The higher incomes in California have more people in higher Federal tax brackets as well.

9 posted on 11/29/2014 8:53:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think that a realistic evaluation would conclude that all the “war on poverty” resulted in dependence on Govt largess. Why bother seeking a job when Uncle Sam pays you to stay at home? The poverty rate never changed. Trillions of dollars later, nothing changed...


10 posted on 11/29/2014 8:57:29 AM PST by Antoninus II
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet when it comes to violent crime, murder, burgulary, rape etc, most Dallas major cities have considerably more crime per capita, according to the FBI crime statistic.

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Dallas, TX is 83.6% more dangerous to live in than Los Angeles, CA.In Dallas, TX as compared to Los Angeles, CA you are: 41.5% more likely to get robbed, 59.9% more likely to get murdered, 45.4% more likely to get your car stolen.

Crime Totals

Crime/100k Los Angeles, CA Dallas, TX Dallas, TX
Total Crime 2750 5049 83.6%
Violent Crime 481 675 40.3%
Property Crime 2269 4374 92.7%

Crime Breakdown

Crime/100k Los Angeles, CA Dallas, TX Dallas, TX
Murder 8 12 59.9%
Rape 24 39 61.2%
Assault 216 294 36.0%
Robbery 233 330 41.5%
Burglary 425 1296 204.9%
Theft 1453 2509 72.7%
Vehicle Theft 391 569 45.4%


11 posted on 11/29/2014 9:55:43 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

Of course some here will argue major violent crimes like murder etc, are somehow hidden or omitted.


12 posted on 11/29/2014 9:56:11 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTW, the stats above are per capita: Crimes per 100,000 people.

For the low information folks, that means if ya have 10 murders a year in a a town of 1000, it’s much worse than 10 murders in a town of 50,000 per year.


13 posted on 11/29/2014 10:08:17 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nowadays there is no “War on Poverty”, it’s a War on Work.

I live in CA. People here think everything is Rosy. Why, we even have a massive Budget Surplus.

The $100,000,000,000 Unfunded Pension Liability is never mentioned. It just magically disappeared when Moonbeam was Elected.

It’s a Miracle I tell you./s


14 posted on 11/29/2014 10:16:39 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you thought the Mulatto Marxist was bad, wait until the Menopausal Marxist is Elected.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Government in CA going broke is a good thing. Trust me here.


15 posted on 11/29/2014 10:19:42 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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