Winston: Ref contact not malicious (Watch and you decide)

espn ^ | 11/22/14 | j shanker

[bestintxas]

Like Obama, this thug has no respect for the rules.

[yldstrk]

clueless ref what was he doing in the formation

[don-o]

clueless ref what was he doing in the formation

His job. When offense substitutes, by rule, play is held up to allow the defense to sub.

[JustaCowgirl]

I have no sympathy for Winston, but in that situation what was he supposed to do? Get out of the way, ref.

[Enterprise]

I’m not a fan of Winston, but the incident didn’t appear to be malicious, and I thought it was funny. He was focused on getting the play. I’m sure by now that he has been told he screwed up.

[yldstrk]

I think Winston is a jerk but not in this instance

[Bob]

Keeping play from starting after the FSU substitution. IOW, exactly what he was supposed to do.

[yldstrk]

well I am not claiming any expertise, but I have never seen anything like that before

[don-o]

Shoving a ref is like laying hands on a cop. Ref should have thrown a flag and ejected Crab Legs.

But, like Bama, Free Shoes U gets to use a different rule book.

[KarlInOhio]

clueless ref what was he doing in the formation

The article was pretty clear about it. The offence made a substitution so the official held up the play for sufficient time to allow the defence to also substitute players. I don't know if that was actually true because I didn't see the substitution, but you aren't allowed to both switch players and run a quick snap.

[yldstrk]

I didn’t see a shove, I saw him put a hand in the ref’s armpit

[Bob]

It happens all the time. You may not have noticed since the players usually wait for the ref to get clear before starting the play. The QB got impatient.

[yldstrk]

The players were already in formation.............

[Repulican Donkey]

This QB is the NCAA’s version of Obama. The excuses are so lame it is pitiful. He should have been tossed from the game.

[don-o]

The only thing the ref can be faulted for is not standing over the ball, as they usually do. There is no excuse for a player to deliberately initiate contact of any kind with an official.

[yldstrk]

looks to me like the ref needs to move but I guess I am wrong

[don-o]

This QB is the NCAA’s version of Obama.

True that.

[Bob]

After an offensive substitution, whether the offense has gotten into formation or not, the defense is given a short time to respond to that substitution. It’s usually such a short delay as to be unnoticeable.

[yldstrk]

ok