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1 posted on 11/23/2014 12:09:19 AM PST by Hojczyk
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GOPe have no problem with it.

They do have a plan and their answer.

They actually think the way to answer is to pass an immigration “reform” bill.


2 posted on 11/23/2014 12:17:22 AM PST by ifinnegan
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I don’t think a knee jerk reaction is needed here. Talk is cheap.

It’s time to sit down with some hard boiled thinking, look at options and react.

In the end this is a legal issue. The SC should take it up NOW.


3 posted on 11/23/2014 12:18:00 AM PST by nikos1121
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Obama's executive action power: Is Obama telling us that he has unlimited power to sign an executive order whenever he wants to? I'm no lawyer, so I'm very confused. Certainly, even Obam's executive order power has its limits.

1. Iraq and Syria refugees, in, say Turkey: How limited is Obama's power in signing any immigrant or refugee executive order?

2. For instance, does Obama technically have the legal power to sign an executive order tomorrow---just a few days after he signed his present illegal immigration executive order---where he grants temporary amnesty to 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 Iraqi and Syrian refugees, and nobody can do anything about it?

3. Africa refugees: Tomorrow, can Obama legally grant immediate amnesty to 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 Ebola refugees from Africa, and, again, nobody can do anything about it?

4. In summary, does Obama and his clever lawyers have us by the throat when it comes to Obama's claim that he has unlimited legal power to sign executive orders wherever and whenever he pleases, and nobody can stop him, not Congress, not the courts?

5. Pardon for 5,000,000 illegals: Just before Obama leaves office in two years, can Obama legally pardon 5,000,000 illegals with an executive order?

6. Has the use of unlimited executive order power intoxicated Obama so much that he has become completely mad? God help us.

4 posted on 11/23/2014 12:18:17 AM PST by john mirse
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This is not an issue for GOPe. The only concern for them is whether they should lead on amnesty and take credit for it, at the expense of angering the base, or let Obama take the blame for it which would energize the base and help with fundraising.

Either way, they are fine with amnesty. Its not an issue for them.


5 posted on 11/23/2014 12:18:27 AM PST by marron
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The Republican party is the party of the elite, the flip side of the tarnished two party coin. They do not represent conservatives.


6 posted on 11/23/2014 12:19:50 AM PST by kik5150
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While this is such a serious topic and I am very upset to see Republicans basically yawn and go home, I do not find Bachmann a welcome or credible spokesperson for protest. Maybe it is still the trauma of seeing the pic of her eating a corn dog at Iowa fair, her surprise Swiss citizenship, her... Okay, I just do not like her.


7 posted on 11/23/2014 12:20:24 AM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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This is why we vote Republican so they can fund the govt at current levels or more, not try to reduce govt and do nothing as Obama legislates...

The GOP Gruber Conservatives every election. Plus they scaremonger by villifying Democrats while acting just like Democrats once elected.

Looking for a US version of the UKIP


8 posted on 11/23/2014 12:26:17 AM PST by RginTN
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“We're having this debate: should there be a lawsuit? Should there be impeachment? Should the government be shut down?" And the answer is: All of the above plus defunding and reversing all of Maobama's E.O.s.

Fire all leftists at the Justice and State Depts and repeal Maobama care. Then withdraw from the UN, move the organization to China, Africa, Anartica (who cares where?) and cordially invite the aid mooching parasites never to return. Then get serious.

9 posted on 11/23/2014 12:27:58 AM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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Yawn... wake us when we can run on gaining the majority again, after we've lost it.  They'll sucker for it again...


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15 posted on 11/23/2014 1:05:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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“The emperor has played to the senators well. They know where the power now lies, and they will do anything they can to share in it.” - Mon Mothma - Star Wars Episode III

Life imitates art.

The Ruling Class has decided Imperial Fascism is now the rule for all Amerika.

So the GOP-e says nothing in the face of treason, because they themselves are complicit in implementing it.

But come 2016, if we are still around and not a smoking crater in the earth, the same thugs who demanded we all vote for whomever has an ‘R’ after their name - regardless of how disgustingly leftist they were, will come out to insult and shame you into voting for more of the same, or you will be branded and Obama supporter/”Pelosi and Reid thank you for not voting ‘R’” etc., etc.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 1:32:32 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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Our government is illegitimate and unconstitutional. It’s time to stop looking for constitutional law to change things when our modern government doesn't abide by that same constitution anymore. We need to use civil disobedience to protest this tyranny. Mass defiance of blatantly unconstitutional laws and mandates has to happen soon if we are going to have any chance of salvaging what’s still left. We should use the system where we can still achieve things, but we have to start employing new tactics along with that. Working within the government system won't work by itself, and we all know that. We need to change things before it's too late. We have to bypass and defy unconstitutional obstacles put in place by the left to stop us. Obama is defiant about destroying our nation, and we can only defend it from the left by doing the same.
22 posted on 11/23/2014 3:17:24 AM PST by LeeClementineKenny (www.OathKeepers.org)
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Not one thin dime of tax money should be spent on illegals or their spawn. GO HOME and get in line if you want to come to the Land of the Freeloaders.


24 posted on 11/23/2014 3:38:01 AM PST by txrefugee
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25 posted on 11/23/2014 3:46:01 AM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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We will not engage
. . . sounds exactly like the strategy that worked so well </sarcasm> when Karl Rove executed it on the “Where are the WMDs?” front.

29 posted on 11/23/2014 4:39:51 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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I think it is beginning to dawn on folks that the POS Barack Hussein Obama, this week, was pulling a WIZARD OF OZ act. The only thing he has said, or done, so far is to say that he will be not deporting illegal aliens. He’s been not deporting illegal aliens for the past 6 years— so there is nothing new so far.

Some folks were seeing the image of a Great and Powerful Wizard the Obama’s handlers were projected. As I watched his speech, I was seeing the small (and FREIGHTENED) man “behind the curtain”. Remember, Obama and the ‘RATS have just suffered a devastating blow in this year’s election. They see their power eroding and disappearing into vapor.

Let’s encourage our Republican Congress to be strong and join with the constitutional conservatives among the caucus. Let’s not allow them to be cowed by the weakened ‘RATS and their allies in the media.

Let’s PLAY OUR GAME, let’s not be tricked into playing the game the way the ‘RATS want us to play. Let’s not let the defanged ‘RATS set the agenda.


30 posted on 11/23/2014 4:42:30 AM PST by House Atreides
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It is likely this amnesty will be a disaster, leading to another bad election year for the Rats in 2016. This is probably Boehner’s thinking.

I don’t agree with this strategy as the country may not survive 2 more years of Obama.


33 posted on 11/23/2014 4:52:43 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Obama thinks he is the Charlie Manson of politics. He thought he was going to start a ‘Helter Skelter’ with his immigration memo. He didn’t even do an Executive Order. Most folks are going to ignore BHO’s memo. He thought his ‘Helter Skelter’ was going to coincide with the Ferguson GJ announcement and ensuing destruction. Also, he is nickel and diming us to death. Sorry, BHO, we’re with common sense.


35 posted on 11/23/2014 4:53:26 AM PST by abclily
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Cheap labor! More votes!

Great taste! Less filling!

Our kids better be learning Spanish, to get any job that deals with the public.

The America our forefathers fought, bled and died for seems about gone - Marxed, queered, and bedeviled.


36 posted on 11/23/2014 4:58:08 AM PST by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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"Do nothing, say nothing" is now the official de jure GOP strategy and not the de facto policy. When is it that the GOP becomes worthless or worse than useless? What is the sign that it is time to launch a replacement party to the GOP?

If this isn't it, I don't know what more evidence you need.

37 posted on 11/23/2014 4:58:54 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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It's very possible we have a political party in the midst of self destructing. It's likely the dems are trading a voter base they once had for millions of illegals that may or may not vote for them.

In addition they are sabotaging their black voter base one more time. What blacks that are not in jail usually have minimum wage jobs at Burger King/McDonalds, etc.Let five million illegals have those jobs and what recourse do blacks have? How energetic will they be at the elections in 2016,my guess is not so much.

Best of all if you are Hillary Clinton WTF will you run on? She has no record of achievement other than mileage.Of course she could run on Benghazi, obamcare,the VA,IRS,open borders Ebola eV-D68 or anyone of a dozen other scandals but she probably won't. Even her side can't invent enough lies fast enough to get her elected even with a willing press. Truth is Hillary Clinton is toast,she may not even run.

that leaves it wide open for us. We can get all pissed off that all we can do now is oppose zero a line at a time when we get power in January or we can all back a single conservative candidate who will win in two years and there will be nothing the GOPe can do about it.

If we let the conservative vote get split up,again, in the primaries guess who we will get? If you said Mitt, Jeb or fat boy score points.

In essence our future is up to us.

38 posted on 11/23/2014 5:07:32 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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