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To: spirited irish

Could this article not be applied to Creation as well?

Badly written, somehow saying that evolution is wrong, and Creation is right. However, my main disagreement is in the way that the author presents it.

I’m not saying that I don’t believe in the Bible, but I have my questions that may never be answered, and my doubts.

There are a lot of credible prophecies in the Bible that one can argue have come to fruition.

How can science prove the existence of God? How can science prove the existence of the big bang or any other types of evolution or how we came to be. It simply can’t.

The Bible is based on faith. Believing because the ultimate truths are within our heart of hearts, and I don’t think anyone can deny that there is a God. But science, tries to disprove God not through confronting the evidence of God, but coming up with theories, and hypothesis that are likely not even scratching the surface of what the universe is. Just like centuries ago people believed the Earth was flat. Yet a few men didn’t, they were right. Mainstream....wrong.

Anyone that says they have all the answers is a fool. We don’t even know why mass = gravity. We know the table and stool stay together, but why the sub-atomic particles stay together in the shape? Why does it work?

Basically, God must certainly exist.....or we are the luckiest thing in the history of everything to be here, and there is no meaning to anything. Where do our morals come from, our intelligence? But then where did God come from? If God was always there, then there is nothing else. We can observe nature..which certainly seems designed. Then apply it to the rest of the universe. Something came first, chicken or the egg. It’s impossible to know for certain in this life. A thing that worries me about the Bible is that man is fallible, and the Bible has been translated , re compiled, parts added, parts probably taken away. We live in a fallen world, the Bible likely has been changed from those days it was written. How could it not be?

If you do not have doubts, I can’t have a conversation with you. But for any man to say they have all the answers, that’s just foolishness.

Faith vs Science. The truths of the heart, vs the truths of observation...however Science is no longer about truths, it is about lies, and making fantasy into reality. When it comes down to it, I don’t think anyone really knows for sure. Some will say they do, but deep down......how can you possibly know, if God has not come and spoken to you?

Just my thoughts, but the article does a bad job of proving that science is wrong, but the Bible is right. Once again, we live in a fallen world.


12 posted on 11/20/2014 11:39:55 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

“the article does a bad job of proving that science is wrong, but the Bible is right. Once again, we live in a fallen world.”

Spirited: Man is captive to his senses, and given that he is fallen, it logically follows that science is fallible, the theory trumpeted today as the latest and greatest is replaced by tomorrow’s latest and greatest. That said, the article is not trying to prove observable science wrong but rather pointing out that metaphysical speculations posing as science are not observable science.

Moreover, evolutionary dynamics properly belong to the category of metaphysics, particularly to esotericism since evolution is an unseen energy or power endowed by men with the power of choice (natural selection) and change that according to evolutionary atheists is mindless.

Evolutionary theists and progressive creationists attempt to get around the awkwardness of the atheist position with claims of Gods’ involvement. This stance puts them in league with Babylonian Cabbalists who wrote of their power to either kill God so as to seize control of His powers or to allow Him to exist in furtherance of some other agenda.

“Could this article not be applied to Creation as well?”

Spirited: Again, man is a prisoner of his senses. This means that the only knowledge we can have of God—and creation— must come from Him. Now either we choose to believe that He really did communicate with Abraham, Moses and OT prophets and NT Apostles or we choose not to believe and fall into nihilism-—meaninglessness, hopelessness and despair.

The choice is yours to make.


21 posted on 11/20/2014 12:23:16 PM PST by spirited irish
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