I don’t remember advocating allowing government to force sterilizations, unless we are discussing the totally incompetent - and even then pills are less expensive and intrusive than operations.
Could we just ask for no welfare payments to those whom we are discussing?
PS Neither I, nor I suspect Carry-Okie & Chicken Soup, want to see government allowed into the decision making loop.
IMHO, if the Founders thought AgencyPersons could make such decisions better than parents, and the parents choice of theological advisors, they would have left some hint of such views in their writings.
IIRC, they didn’t.
there are people that need to be sterilized because people who have no ability to judge or care for other humans are having babies.
This is absolutely calling for forced sterilization.
In post 39 you wrote:
a catastrophic genetic disease can usually be spotted long before birth...parents who deliberately birth children with genetic diseases usually ask, make that demand, that others pay for their child’s medical bills.
The only way to "deliberately birth" a child with a genetic condition is to have a prenatal test done and not opt to kill the baby.
And finally, in post #8 Carry_Okie wrote:
To me, there is a big difference between abortion and forced sterilization. In the latter case, as decided by a judge or jury, it is deprivation of a liberty, true, but it is not killing anybody. There really are people out there who should not have kids...To me, forced sterilization with appropriate due process of law is the least damaging.
Again, a specific call for forced sterilization.