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To: Carry_Okie; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; ...
Thank you for your shrill, knee-jerk, arrogant, condescending, and twisted representation of what I wrote.

Misrepresentation? Did you or did you not advocate for involuntary sterilization? YES or NO

I said it would be pursuant to a court. That means there had been a crime perpetrated against another person.

No, you are advocating for the taking of freedom where no crime has been committed although you suspect that one MIGHT be in the future.

The baby that person had gestated while taking dangerous drugs or knowingly inflicting a fatal disease and producing a child for the purposes of sharing suffering or without regard to sufffering. That is a crime against the child AND the people who pay for the consequences.

Again, at best you have a SUSPICION that this might happen in a pregnancy and for that you want to involuntarily sterilize someone. And I still find your reference to the "people" paying for it as bizarre.

Moreover, the notion that people who MIGHT pass on genetic traits that some find objectionable or undesirable has been pushed for well over a century by people like you, it's called EUGENICS. Some major proponents have included the Darwin-Huxley family, Margaret Sanger, Hitler and John Maynard Keynes (who also thought of all money as belonging to the "people").

Just out of curiosity, what do you think the reaction will be when eugenicists once again decide that entire classes of people are no longer permitted to be born?

Considering the magnitude, that perpetrator should be imprisoned.

Yes, a mother who takes drugs, etc. and endangers the life of her unborn baby SHOULD be imprisoned. But, that's not what you're advocating, you advocate for the woman to be sterilized because you THINK she might endanger the baby.

I am suggesting instead that he or she should be tried, and if found guilty, sterilized. There is no violation of due process suggested here.

The belief that a woman MIGHT endanger a baby IF she becomes pregnant DOES NOT constitute a crime.

You have been a jerk.

People who push evil agendas like eugenics tend to bring that out in me.

23 posted on 11/17/2014 9:08:53 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
No, you are advocating for the taking of freedom where no crime has been committed although you suspect that one MIGHT be in the future.

No. In what I am saying, a crime HAS been committed. Pursuant to a pregnancy delivering such a child, AFTER having committed said acts against it, the prosecution would commence to preclude another should that person fail to do so voluntarily. It is a penalty for a crime to prevent another.

24 posted on 11/17/2014 9:14:05 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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